Remote attestation is the true enemy of your freedom. The power of the authoritarian corporatocracy to force you to use only the (entire) systems they control. It's worth reading https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html again just to see how prescient Stallman was.
The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton
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#12I'm not hyped about most of the DRM stuff (and yeah, frog boiling is definitely a worry, though I don't know how we could ever end up with devices that can't boot alternative OSes just cuz of how servers are set up). But I am personally glad to see hardware-level key stores show up on all CPUs. Maybe this is already a thing and I'm being duped by Apple for thinking it's good, but it feels good to me.
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#13Ew. Why are all the chip manufacturers going along with this stupid plan? I want to buy a processor and then own it and have it work in my best interests, not consume electricity and generatie heat enforcing draconian 3rd party DRM policies.
Intel started putting ME in their cpus 12 years ago.
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#14Ew. Why are all the chip manufacturers going along with this stupid plan? I want to buy a processor and then own it and have it work in my best interests, not consume electricity and generatie heat enforcing draconian 3rd party DRM policies.
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#16While I disagree with the author's opinion, it was very informative for me.
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#17While I disagree with the author's opinion, it was very informative for me.
Not mentioned in the article - but it begs the question, could this have something to do with Microsoft's insistence that everyone, even Pro users in the next update, use a Microsoft Account with Windows 11? If Pluton (or Pluton 2, someday) could be tied to a Microsoft Account, wouldn't that be something.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Intel started putting ME in their cpus 12 years ago.
and yet, without any evidence, huawei is being blamed for "spying".... smh
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#19Ew. Why are all the chip manufacturers going along with this stupid plan? I want to buy a processor and then own it and have it work in my best interests, not consume electricity and generatie heat enforcing draconian 3rd party DRM policies.
The conspiratorial answers here are emotionally satisfying, but ultimately wrong. The reason chip makers and OS vendors are adding this is customer demand, by which I mean enterprises. Companies want remote attestation and guaranteed-immutable OS images on their networks, and I honestly can't say I blame them. In a perfect world they could have it and we could somehow firewall it away from the consumer space entirely…
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
The conspiratorial answers here are emotionally satisfying, but ultimately wrong. The reason chip makers and OS vendors are adding this is customer demand, by which I mean enterprises. Companies want remote attestation and guaranteed-immutable OS images on their networks, and I honestly can't say I blame them. In a perfect world they could have it and we could somehow firewall it away from the consumer space entirely…
On-premise, open-source, customer-owned remote attestation servers are possible. Avoid outsourcing integrity verification to 3rd-party clouds.