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Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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Nothing like moving abroad for a while to appreciate good old Germany. I centered my life abroad and I'm not likely to move back but I'm getting nostalgic ;) This is a bit rant-y, and some of this may be US-centric but I think it will apply to equatorial countries as well. I think you should totally move abroad - if you stay for only 1-2 years you'll not want even to move back, after 5-10 years you start to appreciat…

Thanks for taking the time and putting all those points together. I see the con's and I am sure, that's nothing what we're especially looking forward to. But especially the pro's got totally eroded over here. At least from my point of view. There is hardly any reasonable equality, the social divide is IMO mostly based on that. Low crime and violence ... once was. We live in one of the "better" parts of Berlin, nevertheless I fear the day, we have to send our son to a public school. Education was good, became worse but is not catastrophic yet. Getting a university degree is (nearly) free and that's fine. Still, the level of real education in public schools beforehand is getting worse and worse. Social safety net does not exist for me being self employed but the "last resort" Hartz4. I still agree on sensible regulations and the med system.

I might paint a too dark picture, but that's what I've experienced in the last 20 years, and those things are the drivers behind our plans to leave the country. However, your points are a great source of information for everyone who might consider leaving the country. Thanks a lot.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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> to canada (Vancouver BC) I mean Vancouver is not exactly a paragon of affordable housing either.

Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver...probably couldn't be more different. Would not want to lump all of Canada into one of those cities.

Berlin to Edmonton? Maybe it could work if nightlife doesn't matter at all to you.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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I am also leaving Germany. Today I chatted with a Berliner who pointed out how loud and unsafe Berlin has become. Months ago I talked with a lady with kids that moved out cos too much drugs in parks. Not surprised to read your story! I am going to the land of tolerance and innovation: the Netherlands!

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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I'd look into Bali.

The new five year digital nomad visa means you pay no income tax.

A beautiful villa is $300-600 per month.

You could be working from a beach club with pool, gym, healthy restaurant and tennis court, like Titi Batu https://goo.gl/maps/KGfy6hqscZ2XKrzQ8

Price is very low, a 30 min taxi ride is $1.50, a main dish at a fancy restaurant is $5-7.

The food is the best I've ever had, weather is wonderful, there's surfing and the people are super friendly, funny and happy.

(I'm not sure about health care and education.)

My second choice would probably be Lisbon.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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Hey, could you please review and stick to the rules when posting here? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html - you broke them badly with this post. Also, could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is also in the site guidelines. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users t…

It's actually more if a mechanism to spend less time commenting on hn. Unfortunately this depiction of Germany triggered me ;)

I can certainly understand how such a description might do that. I don't mean you personally, of course; we all have our triggers.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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I know you said you’re looking for a warmer climate, but have you been to Leipzig? It’s a great little city with a ton of history. It has some of the feel of Berlin but is infinitely cheaper and less busy. Just something to consider.

Otherwise I would look into the Balkan coast. Croatia, Montenegro, etc. You won’t be working locally but the quality of life will be great on a remote salary and the culture shock should be fairly minimal for a German.

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver...probably couldn't be more different. Would not want to lump all of Canada into one of those cities.

Berlin to Edmonton? Maybe it could work if nightlife doesn't matter at all to you.

OP is specifically requesting no cold winters and you guys are talking about Edmonton ;)

Re: Ask HN: Leaving Germany – where to find quality of life as experienced engineer?

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what are your top 3 issues with berlin? germany and berlin always seemed to offer great quality of life. i’m from europe too. how can you not afford a house in germany with a 200k/year salary? for less than 500k you should be able to find something nice? even if you pay 50% tax. and you have 2 incomes. in the US real estate on the east and west coast is insanely expensive and 1.5MM plus for a very basic house. nothin…

The price for small houses (often in terrible condition) around Berlin hovers in the range of 700-1000 T€, so if you don't have a lot of capital it can be hard. Banks like to charge freelancers a premium on the interest rate (as they can supposedly lose their income anytime, which often is just an excuse to extract more money from them...) or outright refuse to give them a loan unless they can provide a guarantee (e.…

wow, 700K ... that is totally insane if that is actually true. years ago i visited the pankow area and it was dirt cheap. this was maybe around 2009 or so. so that is only a good 10 years ago.
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