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Re: Considering Sourcehut

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I don't even mind the separate component approach but I wish they would just have a single consistent navigation bar on all of them for switching between all the services for a project.

We will be adding this soon, it's an acknowledged priority for the beta.

Glad to hear that's coming.

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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I just can't get past how bad SourceHut's UI is. They really need to hire someone that knows some basic UI principles. Edit: As a commenter suggested, I will elaborate a little: I'm a big fan of minimalist and lightweight UIs, that's not my issue with SourceHut's design. My issue is the disregard for several established UI principles (balance, proportion, repetition, etc.). Some examples: - The login[0] and register[…

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Re: Considering Sourcehut

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As I read it, they are searching for a free service. AFAIK Sourcehut is only free currently because it is in alpha stage. So it will cost at least $20/year in the future. (Which is still way cheaper than GitLabs Premium plan, but still: it isn't "free") I don't think people think enough about that fact. Sourcehut is not a "free" alternative if you plan long term. I think something like codeberg.org would be a real "f…

As I read it, you are searching for pedantry wherever you can find it.

I don't think you think enough about this fact. For a large open-source project, $20 a year is about as close as "free" as one can get.

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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As I read it, they are searching for a free service. AFAIK Sourcehut is only free currently because it is in alpha stage. So it will cost at least $20/year in the future. (Which is still way cheaper than GitLabs Premium plan, but still: it isn't "free") I don't think people think enough about that fact. Sourcehut is not a "free" alternative if you plan long term. I think something like codeberg.org would be a real "f…

>they are searching for a free service Free as in beer or as in freedom? In podcast they say that GL isn't entirely open source and they don't like that they're using some proprietary features of it.

Both, article mentions:

(1) “After gitlab.com's recent changes to the free tier, we have been seriously reconsidering if gitlab.com is still the best development platform for postmarketOS.”

(2) “SourceHut is a great match for the postmarketOS principles: AGPL licensed, no Open-core model; ...”

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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As I read it, they are searching for a free service. AFAIK Sourcehut is only free currently because it is in alpha stage. So it will cost at least $20/year in the future. (Which is still way cheaper than GitLabs Premium plan, but still: it isn't "free") I don't think people think enough about that fact. Sourcehut is not a "free" alternative if you plan long term. I think something like codeberg.org would be a real "f…

>they are searching for a free service Free as in beer or as in freedom? In podcast they say that GL isn't entirely open source and they don't like that they're using some proprietary features of it.

Correct. Free doesn't mean free of cost in Sourcehut's sense. Running a service like that, that scales, is hard when you don't make much money. They have every right to charge for usage of the main site. The cool part is that the entirety of the platform can be self-hosted, and nothing's hidden from you. It's also super minimal compared to GitLab.

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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Yeah, the disconnect between sourcehut components isn't great, but AFAIK they are working on hub.sr.ht or smth like that, and also better integration between all of those services, precisely to fix that issue. I'm eager to see that implemented, because it will be a good step forward.

I don't even mind the separate component approach but I wish they would just have a single consistent navigation bar on all of them for switching between all the services for a project.

Yeah, I too quite like the approach, but at the moment the components are too dissociated with each other, so something like what you suggested would come along way to making the platform more welcoming and useful.

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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I just can't get past how bad SourceHut's UI is. They really need to hire someone that knows some basic UI principles. Edit: As a commenter suggested, I will elaborate a little: I'm a big fan of minimalist and lightweight UIs, that's not my issue with SourceHut's design. My issue is the disregard for several established UI principles (balance, proportion, repetition, etc.). Some examples: - The login[0] and register[…

strong agree, though with the caveat that it's "bad" for my tastes and priorities, but is clearly ok for other folks. it feels all too common for folks to rage against bloaty interfaces (i agree, they're terrible!) but swing wildly back towards clunky browser-default randomness. you can have a consistent, polished interface without javascript and tons of images! one thing w/ sourcehut that i find adds confusion is th…

The repository's description also changes for no apparent reason ("Photo management solution" vs "A web picture gallery").

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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I just can't get past how bad SourceHut's UI is. They really need to hire someone that knows some basic UI principles. Edit: As a commenter suggested, I will elaborate a little: I'm a big fan of minimalist and lightweight UIs, that's not my issue with SourceHut's design. My issue is the disregard for several established UI principles (balance, proportion, repetition, etc.). Some examples: - The login[0] and register[…

Agree with a lot of your comment but from its early days I think the UI consistency has come on leaps and bounds.

e.g.:

The current homepage has an odd out-of-place looking blue banner. This is largely down to uneven margins and paddings applied to the banner content - in particular vertical paddings aren't optically aligned with horizontal.

This same issue was once common through sourcehut's content but it's already clear how much that's improved looking at how much better the primary homepage content looks in contrast to the banner.

There's little tiny niggling issues like that everywhere - often related to vertical alignment not matching horizontal alignment - and while each is individually negligible, the cumulative affect is a bit jarring. But I still see it improving all the time.

Re: Considering Sourcehut

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strong agree, though with the caveat that it's "bad" for my tastes and priorities, but is clearly ok for other folks. it feels all too common for folks to rage against bloaty interfaces (i agree, they're terrible!) but swing wildly back towards clunky browser-default randomness. you can have a consistent, polished interface without javascript and tons of images! one thing w/ sourcehut that i find adds confusion is th…

The repository's description also changes for no apparent reason ("Photo management solution" vs "A web picture gallery").

The link parent posted is not of the repository but of the project. Sourcehut doesn't use the 1 to 1 relationship between projects and repositories, wiki, and issue tracker that the other source forges employ.

A sourcehut project can have as many as them as there are required. Therefore the Source tab takes you to the main git/HG repo that you have added for your project.

That's also the reason why the descriptions are different, one is of the project, the other is of the repository.

It's only confusing if you dismiss everything that's not a clone of github without investing the little time it takes to learn about the differences.

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