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Concatenate languages are fun, but damn if that isn't an annoying UI. It's gated with some kind of captcha, and it made me go through 40+ rounds, with every few selected images resizing and shifting the captcha.
There shouldn't be any captchas. Do you mean on the website, like Cloudflare captchas? Which country/vpn/whatever are coming from?
Be careful. Factor is a gateway to lower level stack based languages. I saw Zed Shaw do a presentation using factor and decided to spend a weekend playing with it. It was the start of a two year journey that ended with me writing forth for microcontrollers. That was time I should have studied but was somehow always sidelined by other things.
Ha! I implemented "concatenative" programming for Java as Binding [1] (or Unit) expressions, but had no idea. Seriously, never came across that term before this post. The idea with binding expressions is the type of expression A and the type of expression B implement "reactions" with one another in order to form a binding expression when they are lexically adjacent. 65 mph The type of `mph` defines a post reaction me…
Be careful. Factor is a gateway to lower level stack based languages. I saw Zed Shaw do a presentation using factor and decided to spend a weekend playing with it. It was the start of a two year journey that ended with me writing forth for microcontrollers. That was time I should have studied but was somehow always sidelined by other things.
I saw the same presentation back then and also spent a weekend with factor. It was a really valuable experience. The language was so different from anything I had previously used that I had to learn a new way of thinking. That was a great thing to go through.
Slava Pestov (the creator of factor) did a presentation on the language at Google back in the 2000s. A highlight from the talk was him explaining that there was a function 'boa' that you could call to construct an object 'by order of arguments'. He called it "a boa constructor." :)
Made me realize webassembly is almost a concatenative language
One of the text forms is totally stack based while the second is quite lispy. And, according to the official grammar, you can mix the two forms willy-nilly — aside from the function header which needs to be in the lisp form IIRC.
Be careful. Factor is a gateway to lower level stack based languages. I saw Zed Shaw do a presentation using factor and decided to spend a weekend playing with it. It was the start of a two year journey that ended with me writing forth for microcontrollers. That was time I should have studied but was somehow always sidelined by other things.
Oh the flip side, if you told that story in an interview I'd hire you on the spot.
CS or EE is however my backup if I get injured or for some reason lose my job.
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From the FAQ [0]: > How is Factor different from Forth? > Forth is untyped, not garbage collected, and close to the machine. For flow control, Forth code tends to use immediate words. Variables and arrays tend to be global, and programs aren't usually written in a functional manner. Factor is very different from this. It is dynamically typed, offering a high degree of reflection. Unreferenced objects are garbage coll…
Also Forth appears to be heavily corporate. Except for GNU's Gforth compiler, tools appear to be commercial.
Though you're right, forths are unusually commercial. Forth is old, and in some ways it stayed old. A lot of people that use it now have used it since the 80s, so they're quite used to paying for compilers.
There's also the fact that forths are used in very niche places, and the companies that use them are happy to pay up.
You'll find a very open community with really nice people though.
Be careful. Factor is a gateway to lower level stack based languages. I saw Zed Shaw do a presentation using factor and decided to spend a weekend playing with it. It was the start of a two year journey that ended with me writing forth for microcontrollers. That was time I should have studied but was somehow always sidelined by other things.
Have you found #forth-hardware-projects and #mecrisp?
Ha! I implemented "concatenative" programming for Java as Binding [1] (or Unit) expressions, but had no idea. Seriously, never came across that term before this post. The idea with binding expressions is the type of expression A and the type of expression B implement "reactions" with one another in order to form a binding expression when they are lexically adjacent. 65 mph The type of `mph` defines a post reaction me…
1.5 USD = 1.5 * USD
65 mph = 65 * mile / hour
you can then use simple algebra to solve unit conversion and many other common deductive reasoning questions ("how many miles per gallon...?"), relying on the units to guide you to the solution.
There's probably a name for this, and it is indeed built into the SI notation (km/h vs mph).
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Oh the flip side, if you told that story in an interview I'd hire you on the spot.
Currently you probably wouldn't. I am a classical musician. CS or EE is however my backup if I get injured or for some reason lose my job.
So with a gap working as a classical musician it might mean starting effectively as a (paid) intern, but it would still get your foot in the door.
I don't claim to be representative of all, or even most hiring managers though.