The comments here are so heavily jargon laden that I have no idea what I was reading.. gto, plo, nlo, then with numbers behind them, etc.. Is there a glossary to understand those terms?
At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
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Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
unlike chess or go where you have to stop at some age - good point!
Yeah, it's sad to see champions giving up chess in their 30s but I can also see the desire to leave on a high note, before you've declined, and also spend your life on other things- you've already shown you're the best so why invest all that time and effort into keeping your title? There's definitely diminishing returns.
If you're talking about competitive players, they don't give up, they stop competing professionally and usually go on to teach. Competitive chess is a gruelling full time job.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#33It’s funny that the two examples used to illustrate his play (the 10 2) stories are examples of him making extremely bad reads on his opponent and bad beating them. I can only assume that’s him massaging the narrative a bit to help him win in the future, cause it isn’t great poker playing.
He turned to religion shortly after.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#34The comments here are so heavily jargon laden that I have no idea what I was reading.. gto, plo, nlo, then with numbers behind them, etc.. Is there a glossary to understand those terms?
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Glossary_of_poker_terms helped for me.
gto means game theory optimal, basically an attempt at a mathematically optimal way of playing poker. plo is pot limit omaha, nlo is no limit omaha. Both are variants of poker.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#35The comments here are so heavily jargon laden that I have no idea what I was reading.. gto, plo, nlo, then with numbers behind them, etc.. Is there a glossary to understand those terms?
Here you go:
https://www.twoplustwo.com/acronyms.php
I am not sure, but I think:
GTO means game theoretic optimal PLO means pot limit Omaha NLO means no limit Omaha
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#36The comments here are so heavily jargon laden that I have no idea what I was reading.. gto, plo, nlo, then with numbers behind them, etc.. Is there a glossary to understand those terms?
Yes, poker enthusiasts tend to use a ton of jargon from the game. There are plenty of glossaries but you need to have a basic understanding of the game to make sense of most of it. Like this: https://www.888poker.com/magazine/poker-terms
The terms you mentioned:
GTO: Game Theory Optimal
PLO: Pot Limit Omaha (different from NL - "No Limit" Texas Hold'em). "Pot Limit" means your max bet can only be as much money as is in the pot at the time.
NLO: No Limit Omaha - That restriction on pot size is not there
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't have to stop playing. Kasparov (59) still plays here and there and he's still pretty great. Anand is 52 and is 13th in the world. Chess requires a crazy amount of time invested and you're likely going to stop, and definitely slow, making gains at a certain age. Lots of people play chess for reasons other than becoming the world champion (since obviously most won't). That said I play online chess too much an…
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ah, well, we've proven again those don't always work over the Internet. I mean Google works but sarcasm and irony not always.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#38The comments here are so heavily jargon laden that I have no idea what I was reading.. gto, plo, nlo, then with numbers behind them, etc.. Is there a glossary to understand those terms?
Of course, there are many poker terminology and jargon lists — https://betandbeat.com/poker/terminology/ is one.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#39lots of misinformation here about the current state of play with respect to GTO. If you're interested in understanding the principles of GTO and how amateurs currently leverage it check out the Finding Equilibrium youtube channel. Specifically, there's a series where this guy teaches his girlfriend to play poker by building heuristics that generally mimic solver advice. It's a cool way to see how solvers are changing the live poker game; from this relatively basic series you can extrapolate how professionals refine their strategies and heuristics to get very close to solver approval in the majority of situations.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#40It’s funny that the two examples used to illustrate his play (the 10 2) stories are examples of him making extremely bad reads on his opponent and bad beating them. I can only assume that’s him massaging the narrative a bit to help him win in the future, cause it isn’t great poker playing.
He pushed enough chips into the middle to force Alto to go all in with the rest of his stack. Alto called. “What’ve you got?” Brunson asked. Alto flipped over an ace and a jack, giving him the stronger two-pair hand. Brunson showed his ten-deuce and said, “You’ve got me beat.” The dealer flipped the card. Ten of diamonds. Brunson had won the Main Event.
The next year: Brunson had been working his opponent, Gary “Bones” Berland, and figured he had him on the ropes. He started with the same exact hand: ten-deuce. The communal cards gave Brunson two pair, and he bet before the dealer turned over the “river.” Berland went all in. The final card showed a ten, giving Brunson a full house and making the back-to-back champion a bona fide poker superstar.