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Re: Eve Online's most notorious player has quit the game

#151

Post by OOD » Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 4:18 PM UTC

staticman2 wrote: post #143

OOD wrote: post #98

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That's natural puberty according to their natural biology. Feeding them hormones to "pause" puberty is denying them their basic humanity to go through puberty naturally.

No medical treatment is natural. You know what's natural? Infant mortality. Nature sucks. If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by denying them medical treatment because of some concept of "natural".

>No medical treatment is natural.

Wrong. Giving water to a dehydrated person is a natural medical treatment. Your entire premise is now disproven.

>You know what's natural? Infant mortality. Nature sucks.

You know what's natural? Children having identity crises and not being mentally developed enough to know the long term effects of their decisions. Nature sucks.

>If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by denying them medical treatment because of some concept of "natural".

If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by pumping them full of steroids to destroy their bodies and denying them their natural development because it's politically expedient.

"Treating" "trans children" is a crime against humanity. Much the same way lobotomies, FGM, etc. are.

Re: Eve Online's most notorious player has quit the game

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Post by staticman2 » Wed, Jul 27, 2022, 6:18 PM UTC

cestith wrote: post #150

staticman2 wrote: post #144

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That's an interpretation of the Matrix some blogger made up. As far as I can tell the directors never said the pills represent estradiol. It strikes me as a real stretch. The effect of taking the red pill is like an LSD trip.

Say what you want about the actual pills, but the film is canonically a trans metaphor. https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53692435 LSD by the way does not wake you up from hallucinations. It causes them. Are you referring to psychedelics raising one's sense of connection to the world around them?

I'd say your interpretation of that quote is wrong. She says the original idea was a trans metaphor not the movie she actually made. She even says the world was not ready for that, i.e. it's not the movie she made. Also I would expect the films to be a metaphor for several things, otherwise all that stuff about free will and predetermination is a huge waste of time.

I don't know if you've seen the fourth movie but it basically makes fun of attempts to interpret the Matrix as a metaphor like this, with a trans metaphor being one of several interpretations of the Matrix Trilogy pitched by the wacky Warner Brothers marketing department. This is not played as a serious interpretation. It seems awfully reductive to say the movies just mean that one specific thing. (Incidently in the video game Matrix Path of Neo the Wackowskys break the fourth wall and discuss the theme of choice versus fate.)

LSD causing hallucinations is the mainstream interpretation of reality. The characters in The Matrix believe the things they see after they take drugs are real things, and the things that they see without drugs are the fake things. But the things they see on the drug visually resembles a bad acid trip.

Re: Eve Online's most notorious player has quit the game

#153

Post by staticman2 » Sat, Jul 30, 2022, 11:23 PM UTC

OOD wrote: post #151

staticman2 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No medical treatment is natural. You know what's natural? Infant mortality. Nature sucks. If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by denying them medical treatment because of some concept of "natural".

>No medical treatment is natural. Wrong. Giving water to a dehydrated person is a natural medical treatment. Your entire premise is now disproven. >You know what's natural? Infant mortality. Nature sucks. You know what's natural? Children having identity crises and not being mentally developed enough to know the long term effects of their decisions. Nature sucks. >If you cared about these kids you would learn about w…

"...not being mentally developed enough to know the long term effects of their decisions"

This is false. You question ask a minor about the consequences of a procedure and judge if they understand it by how they respond.

But it's clear you, personally, are not capable of doing such a thing because you would instead prefer gaslighting.

Re: Eve Online's most notorious player has quit the game

#154

Post by OOD » Fri, Aug 05, 2022, 12:02 AM UTC

staticman2 wrote: post #153

OOD wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>No medical treatment is natural. Wrong. Giving water to a dehydrated person is a natural medical treatment. Your entire premise is now disproven. >You know what's natural? Infant mortality. Nature sucks. You know what's natural? Children having identity crises and not being mentally developed enough to know the long term effects of their decisions. Nature sucks. >If you cared about these kids you would learn about w…

"...not being mentally developed enough to know the long term effects of their decisions" This is false. You question ask a minor about the consequences of a procedure and judge if they understand it by how they respond. But it's clear you, personally, are not capable of doing such a thing because you would instead prefer gaslighting.

>This is false

Wrong. That is true.

>You question ask a minor about the consequences of a procedure and judge if they understand it by how they respond.

OK groomer. This is the same logic pedophiles use. Children are not legally nor mentally capable of making such decisions. Full stop.

>But it's clear you, personally, are not capable of doing such a thing because you would instead prefer gaslighting.

Projecting about gaslighting is one of the signs of grooming. You're right, I'm not capable of doing something as morally bankrupt like grooming children.