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Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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I love all history of bread making, I find it super interesting i wasn general the discover of foods we take for granted.

Protip: make your own ketchup sometime..hot dang it's easily to see why it became ubiquitous..and then cry over how terrible the mass produced stuff is ;)

Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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I love all history of bread making, I find it super interesting i wasn general the discover of foods we take for granted. Protip: make your own ketchup sometime..hot dang it's easily to see why it became ubiquitous..and then cry over how terrible the mass produced stuff is ;)

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Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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I love all history of bread making, I find it super interesting i wasn general the discover of foods we take for granted. Protip: make your own ketchup sometime..hot dang it's easily to see why it became ubiquitous..and then cry over how terrible the mass produced stuff is ;)

> make your own ketchup sometime

Any recipe you prefer?

Also, fun fact, tomatoes are a new world plant. So, no ketchup in the EU until after trade between America and Europe was established.

Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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post #4

I love all history of bread making, I find it super interesting i wasn general the discover of foods we take for granted. Protip: make your own ketchup sometime..hot dang it's easily to see why it became ubiquitous..and then cry over how terrible the mass produced stuff is ;)

> make your own ketchup sometime Any recipe you prefer? Also, fun fact, tomatoes are a new world plant. So, no ketchup in the EU until after trade between America and Europe was established.

Ketchup really just means a fruit based sauce, so it long preceded the arrival of the tomato.

Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> make your own ketchup sometime Any recipe you prefer? Also, fun fact, tomatoes are a new world plant. So, no ketchup in the EU until after trade between America and Europe was established.

Ketchup really just means a fruit based sauce, so it long preceded the arrival of the tomato.

Words mean what the listener understands. Most people understand ketchup to mean “tomato ketchup” so the person you’re replying to is correct.

Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> make your own ketchup sometime Any recipe you prefer? Also, fun fact, tomatoes are a new world plant. So, no ketchup in the EU until after trade between America and Europe was established.

Ketchup really just means a fruit based sauce, so it long preceded the arrival of the tomato.

I thought ketchup was originally mushroom based.

Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> make your own ketchup sometime Any recipe you prefer? Also, fun fact, tomatoes are a new world plant. So, no ketchup in the EU until after trade between America and Europe was established.

Ketchup really just means a fruit based sauce, so it long preceded the arrival of the tomato.

> Ketchup really just means a fruit based sauce

No, it doesn't.

> so it long preceded the arrival of the tomato.

It did, but ketchups before tomato weren't necessarily fruit based. The original British version (and thus, the first American version, from which the other pre-tomato version derived) was mushroom based. Fruit, nut, egg, and bivalve-based versions all existed. (And the historical origin is in Asian fermented fish and soy sauces.)

Re: Baking bread with the Romans part III – the panis quadratus strikes back (2018)

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I love all history of bread making, I find it super interesting i wasn general the discover of foods we take for granted. Protip: make your own ketchup sometime..hot dang it's easily to see why it became ubiquitous..and then cry over how terrible the mass produced stuff is ;)

> make your own ketchup sometime Any recipe you prefer? Also, fun fact, tomatoes are a new world plant. So, no ketchup in the EU until after trade between America and Europe was established.

.. and much more seriously: no red sauce in Italian foods.
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