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The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Web apps beat native apps because there's no install step, no upgrade step and hyperlinks provide the ultimate way for different apps to communicate with each other.

install once is often easier than navigating to a URL on a phone each time. Many users like apps due to one click launch

Agreed. Like Google+ and gTalk etc? This is clearly the UX standard ahead yes?

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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That sounds like the arguments I used to hear from desktop devs back when web apps start to appear. And it still holds true in many cases. Microsoft Outlook, in many ways an example of both great and horrible desktop software, still holds the email client majority: http://www.campaignmonitor.com/stats/email-clients/ Web apps are great when you get along with the designer's UI decisions. When you have a fast network c…

Outlook? The "majority" email client? Really? From your source: "The fine print The email client a person is using can only be detected if images are displayed. This can give an inflated weighting to email clients that display images by default, such as Outlook 2000 and the iPhone. It will also provide a lesser weighting to those that block images by default such as Gmail and Outlook 2007. Those email clients that ar…

Outlook isn't nearly the majority email client, it's just the one most likely to not block img bugs.

Do you have anything to support that claim?

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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There _is_ an install step to almost all web apps, and it generally involves having to fill out a boring form, clicking through from a confirmation email, and trying to remember a username and password every week for the rest of the app's useful life.

This is unique to applications that wish to store users' data in a central location.

I suspect we have different definitions of 'unique' and/or 'application', because this sounds to me like someone saying the need for tyres is unique to cars that have wheels.

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This is unique to applications that wish to store users' data in a central location.

I suspect we have different definitions of 'unique' and/or 'application', because this sounds to me like someone saying the need for tyres is unique to cars that have wheels.

Perhaps. Do you consider a Paint or Paint.NET clone to be an application? A calculator? A clock/weather app? A game where you throw birds at pigs? These are all samples of potentially native applications that do not require login and can be implemented as web pages.

How about services that already require you have an account? You have to log into a Twitter or Facebook or Linkedin client even if you install it as a native application.

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I suspect we have different definitions of 'unique' and/or 'application', because this sounds to me like someone saying the need for tyres is unique to cars that have wheels.

Perhaps. Do you consider a Paint or Paint.NET clone to be an application? A calculator? A clock/weather app? A game where you throw birds at pigs? These are all samples of potentially native applications that do not require login and can be implemented as web pages. How about services that already require you have an account? You have to log into a Twitter or Facebook or Linkedin client even if you install it as a na…

I don't care that native apps require work to install. We've already accepted that as a premise. What I'm saying is that web apps have setup costs too, and therefore saying you don't have to install them is disingenuous.

If all you require to get through the day is an online paint clone, a calculator, a clock/weather app and a game where you throw birds at pigs, more power to you - I'm glad you've been able to shave a few seconds off your day.

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