At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
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At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
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Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#2For those of you who would like to learn the basics of poker, Johns Hopkins offers an online course: https://hopkinspokercourse.com/
MIT OCW also has a course on poker theory: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/15-s50-poker-theory-and-analytic...
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#3For those of you who would like to learn the basics of poker, Johns Hopkins offers an online course: https://hopkinspokercourse.com/ MIT OCW also has a course on poker theory: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/15-s50-poker-theory-and-analytic...
The book “no limit theory and practice” continues to be the most valuable poker book I’ve read.
That said about 80% of that book and 95% of anything written about poker before about 2019 is irrelevant to today’s games.
People never intended to play game theory optimal in the past; it was a war of “leveling” your opponent into making the wrong move. You would make money by playing an “exploitive strategy” meaning, you would make decisions that are not game theory optimal but do exploit your specific opponents tendency.
These days that doesn’t work beyond micros (or small stakes at a brick and mortar casino.)
Solvers, both the software and theory/knowledge have evolved so quickly in the last few years that the game has radically shifted toward simply playing an unexploitable GTO strategy better than your opponents.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#4For those of you who would like to learn the basics of poker, Johns Hopkins offers an online course: https://hopkinspokercourse.com/ MIT OCW also has a course on poker theory: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/15-s50-poker-theory-and-analytic...
The book “no limit theory and practice” continues to be the most valuable poker book I’ve read. That said about 80% of that book and 95% of anything written about poker before about 2019 is irrelevant to today’s games. People never intended to play game theory optimal in the past; it was a war of “leveling” your opponent into making the wrong move. You would make money by playing an “exploitive strategy” meaning, you…
Fascinating. I haven’t played or thought about poker in 15 years. Can you elaborate more on the current strategy of poker? A real example would be helpful.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#5If we use Betteridge's law of headlines then it's no.
I'm all in.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#6For those of you who would like to learn the basics of poker, Johns Hopkins offers an online course: https://hopkinspokercourse.com/ MIT OCW also has a course on poker theory: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/15-s50-poker-theory-and-analytic...
The book “no limit theory and practice” continues to be the most valuable poker book I’ve read. That said about 80% of that book and 95% of anything written about poker before about 2019 is irrelevant to today’s games. People never intended to play game theory optimal in the past; it was a war of “leveling” your opponent into making the wrong move. You would make money by playing an “exploitive strategy” meaning, you…
this may be true online
people in live games are impatient degens, money will always be there with a basic strategy
add in a bit a leveling and you can print
source: i’m a degen whose loses all the time
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
The book “no limit theory and practice” continues to be the most valuable poker book I’ve read. That said about 80% of that book and 95% of anything written about poker before about 2019 is irrelevant to today’s games. People never intended to play game theory optimal in the past; it was a war of “leveling” your opponent into making the wrong move. You would make money by playing an “exploitive strategy” meaning, you…
Fascinating. I haven’t played or thought about poker in 15 years. Can you elaborate more on the current strategy of poker? A real example would be helpful.
People use rng generators to take decisions nowadays. Impossible to really exploit.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
The book “no limit theory and practice” continues to be the most valuable poker book I’ve read. That said about 80% of that book and 95% of anything written about poker before about 2019 is irrelevant to today’s games. People never intended to play game theory optimal in the past; it was a war of “leveling” your opponent into making the wrong move. You would make money by playing an “exploitive strategy” meaning, you…
Fascinating. I haven’t played or thought about poker in 15 years. Can you elaborate more on the current strategy of poker? A real example would be helpful.
A large idea in modern poker theory is playing the Nash equilibrium strategy. A Nash equilibrium is where no player can improve their expected result by unilaterally changing their strategy, and two player games provably have the property that if you play any Nash equilibrium strategy, you expected value will always be greater than or equal to your EV when your opponent also plays an equilibrium strategy.
The application of this is that at any given point during a hand you and your opponent have a "range" of hands (the term in the technical solver literature is an information set) that it would make sense for you to have from your opponents perspective. A range is a probalistic weighting of hands. Every action changes a players range, and for example if a player bluffs too much you can exploit that by calling with a bigger range against them.
So poker becomes a game of, rather than figuring out what your opponent has, instead establishing a baseline strategy that can't be exploited no matter what your opponent does and then adjusting that to optimally exploit your opponent.
That's the basic framework.
Another book recommendations is "Modern Poker Theory".
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#9It’s funny that the two examples used to illustrate his play (the 10 2) stories are examples of him making extremely bad reads on his opponent and bad beating them. I can only assume that’s him massaging the narrative a bit to help him win in the future, cause it isn’t great poker playing.
Re: At 88, Poker Legend Doyle Brunson Is Still Bluffing. Or Is He?
#10It’s funny that the two examples used to illustrate his play (the 10 2) stories are examples of him making extremely bad reads on his opponent and bad beating them. I can only assume that’s him massaging the narrative a bit to help him win in the future, cause it isn’t great poker playing.
I guess he's profiting from the opponents overthinking and tripping themselves.