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Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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Re: Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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The risky part is driving people away from Google products and services via uncertainty. Is now the time to put all your eggs into the Google Voice basket? Buy a bunch of Chrome PCs? I understand why they have to do it but it will definitely cause some people to adopt more of a wait-and-see approach.

This is what Microsoft understands that Google doesn't. Your platform users come first, before anything else. Microsoft assured that their platforms were good because they used their own platforms themselves. For eg. all Microsoft windows software would use the same API's that third-party developers would use. You look at Google and for them the platform and developers are secondary. API's are not only an afterthough…

Yegge, is that you?

Re: Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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This could mean a lot of potential opportunity for start-ups. If Google is shedding products because they don't fit with their core mission or business requirements, those might be some great areas to get into for different/smaller companies. In the end, they will probably focus on general purpose products with super large user bases (docs, maps, email, android, social network, offers, payments etc). Around those, wi…

I think SketchUp is too important for getting 3d buildings into Maps. Picnik is being used for photo editing in Google+. Desktop has already been killed. Orkut...No idea. My guess is Orkut will be around in the short term but will get replaced with Google+ in the next couple years.

Re: Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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The risky part is driving people away from Google products and services via uncertainty. Is now the time to put all your eggs into the Google Voice basket? Buy a bunch of Chrome PCs? I understand why they have to do it but it will definitely cause some people to adopt more of a wait-and-see approach.

In the short term yes. But once they get past killing all the current cruft we will see fewer products being supported for longer.

Re: Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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This is off-topic and doesn't address the actual content of the article, but... "Trim a Bloated Ship"? That metaphor could use some work. How does a ship bloat? And wouldn't a bloated ship float pretty well? If you use the common meaning of trim (honestly, how many mariners read the NYT?), isn't cutting bits off a ship a bad thing? I guess it could be worse. I'll give thanks that Thomas Friedman didn't write it.

"A newly invented metaphor assists thought by evoking a visual image, while on the other hand a metaphor which is technically "dead" (e.g. iron resolution) has in effect reverted to being an ordinary word and can generally be used without loss of vividness. But in between these two classes there is a huge dump of worn-out metaphors which have lost all evocative power and are merely used because they save people the trouble of inventing phrases for themselves. Examples are: Ring the changes on, take up the cudgel for, toe the line, ride roughshod over, stand shoulder to shoulder with, play into the hands of, no axe to grind, grist to the mill, fishing in troubled waters, on the order of the day, Achilles' heel, swan song, hotbed. Many of these are used without knowledge of their meaning (what is a "rift," for instance?), and incompatible metaphors are frequently mixed, a sure sign that the writer is not interested in what he is saying. Some metaphors now current have been twisted out of their original meaning without those who use them even being aware of the fact. For example, toe the line is sometimes written as tow the line. Another example is the hammer and the anvil, now always used with the implication that the anvil gets the worst of it. In real life it is always the anvil that breaks the hammer, never the other way about: a writer who stopped to think what he was saying would avoid perverting the original phrase."

--George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language", 1946 (emphasis added)

Re: Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple somewhat with the transplant of objective-c and next step into apple?

I thought about Apple, but I'm not sure it fits. The company Apple is today is the company that Jobs kept trying to build for 40 years. Proportional fonts and rounded buttons are the result of products, not technologies. Had he had a weaker personality and Woz a more assertive personality, then I think Apple would have needed to make that shift.

Well, I think the transition from the Apple II to the Mac was a little like that.

Re: Google’s Chief Works to Trim a Bloated Ship

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This is off-topic and doesn't address the actual content of the article, but... "Trim a Bloated Ship"? That metaphor could use some work. How does a ship bloat? And wouldn't a bloated ship float pretty well? If you use the common meaning of trim (honestly, how many mariners read the NYT?), isn't cutting bits off a ship a bad thing? I guess it could be worse. I'll give thanks that Thomas Friedman didn't write it.

Well...a bloated ship won't sail well. Galleons held plenty of cargo but were slow and unwieldy.
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