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Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Kusturica made a documentary about him where he said (or implied) he would have been a better player if he wasn't taking cocaine https://www.besoccer.com/new/do-you-know-what-player-i-would...

I just don't understand how cocaine doesn't make you a better person altogether.

Cocaine makes you the BEST person, way better than everybody else.

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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I am no statistician, but all they did was a linear regression on an extremely small population and concluded that, somehow, correlation = causation. > "Our outcome of interest is Soccer Prowess, which counts the number of players, born in a given country, nominated to the Ballon d’Or in the period 2016 to 2019" An extremely small population. > "The estimated coefficient on Meat Consumption is smaller when we include…

No causation reported

Yeah. I don't understand the point then. I can get two completely unrelated variables and show that there is correlation between them.

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Paraphrasing: "high meat consumption + low income = better soccer players". This will be biased in favour of Brazil, but it seems like a plausible idea that more meat can be correlated to better athletic development

Footballers in Brazil mostly come from a poorer background where red meat is not that much available. Rice, beans, various kinds of flour are what they will eat everyday; eggs are probably the most consumed protein alongside those staple dishes

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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No causation reported

Yeah. I don't understand the point then. I can get two completely unrelated variables and show that there is correlation between them.

Anything that is big in Argentina and Brazil will cause this correlation.

Causation is obviously false, footballers mostly came from poverty and at least in Brazil meat is not so frequently consumed by them because of the cost.

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Where does cocaine enter the picture? He was using it from the very beginning of his playing career. Got suspended 3 times by anti-doping agencies (most famously in 1994 at the World Cup) At 27 years old in 1988, and at the very height of his abilities and fame, the Napoli playmaker would lower himself to the following “physical programme”. Sunday: Serie A match. Sunday night to Wednesday morning: continuous cocaine…

>Where does cocaine enter the picture? He was using it from the very beginning of his playing career. Got suspended 3 times by anti-doping agencies (most famously in 1994 at the World Cup)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4bp8bBNVw

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Brazil are good at soccer simply because they are the biggest country where soccer is the main sport so it will be hard to control for that trying to find other reasons. It will be more interesting to look at small countries with relative success like Uruguay or Holland.

Population is something that as a Scot mystifies me. We have a population similar to Croatia, yet they’ve been an incredible force in international football while we have languished in mediocrity, missing out on most major tournaments in the last 30 years. At a club level there’s no contest - our domestic leagues are usually ranked higher in the UEFA coefficient than Croatia’s and traditionally we’ve had greater succ…

Similarly, China is notoriously terrible at international football, despite an enormous population and it being a reasonably popular sport.

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Population is something that as a Scot mystifies me. We have a population similar to Croatia, yet they’ve been an incredible force in international football while we have languished in mediocrity, missing out on most major tournaments in the last 30 years. At a club level there’s no contest - our domestic leagues are usually ranked higher in the UEFA coefficient than Croatia’s and traditionally we’ve had greater succ…

Similarly, China is notoriously terrible at international football, despite an enormous population and it being a reasonably popular sport.

You're right, China is another peculiar outlier on the other side of the spectrum. I wondered whether the reason is that they've got pretty solid pipeline that reliably turns kids into elite Olympic athletes, so maybe potential world class footballers (+ funding) are diverted into those programs instead.

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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Paraphrasing: "high meat consumption + low income = better soccer players". This will be biased in favour of Brazil, but it seems like a plausible idea that more meat can be correlated to better athletic development

Yeah, that's probably why the gladiators were basically vegetarians. ;) https://www.bbc.com/news/education-29723384

Correction twenty out of twenty-two gladiators that died in one particular place ate mostly but not exclusively plants.

Two other did not follow said died because they didn't come from the same area.

That's a drastically different conclusion

Re: Making a Maradona: Meat Consumption and Soccer Prowess

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This is ironic considering that Lionel Messi is essentially vegan most of the year. https://globalsportmatters.com/health/2019/06/10/veganism-no...

probably wasnt vegan during his formative years.

also took hgh bc of his growth hormone disorder
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