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A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

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Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> industrial machinery that chops off hands In the US South there's a ton of poultry workers that have lost fingers and parts of hands to machinery. It's gotten a lot better lately, but for a long time it was a very bad problem. Since most of these workers were Black or from Latin America, there was very little was done to protect them.

"Since most of these workers were Black or from Latin America," more like, "Since most of these workers are poor,"

It’s America and it’s about race because if you look like the people this country historically extracted free labor from, then you are much more likely to be treated poorly for profit. Being poor is different than being poor and black or latino in America. Our livelihoods ride on the manufactured failure of specific groups of people for political reasons. Then here you come calling it all poor people, erasing the specific struggles that enable the system. If you are going to argue on behalf of white people, which ones? What are the lineages of people who were affected most? Who cause the harm? Was redress made?

American Descendents of Slavery haven’t gotten their reparations yet, and LatAm is still an American-managed cluster fuck.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

#103

The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.

Are you really going to go for the "think of the children" argument...? Although I do agree with you about having an e-stop.

"Day cares should be safe for children"

"OMG did you just use the 'think of the children' fallacy??? Invalid!"

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

#105

The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.

Honestly, as someone that researches ML, this is my major concern. It isn't AGI that has the potential to kill us, it is current ML systems that can't handle OOD data and engineers put it in place because "that's the user's fault." Same reason we have Teslas crashing. AI safety might talk about AGI a lot, but their main area of research is modern systems and concerns over that. OOD data is really hard to deal with FW…

Genuine question: is Tesla’s autopilot crashing more often or more severely than human drivers?

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

#107

The answer from the federation is unconscionable. They blamed the boy and then said they could not be held responsible. Fuck off, a kid made a reasonable kid movement. If the robot wasn't ready to be around children, it shouldn't have been deployed around children. And there should have been a big red button that immediately everything, within reach of every player.

Are you really going to go for the "think of the children" argument...? Although I do agree with you about having an e-stop.

There are in fact times when we need to think about children. If we don't, humanity won't have much of a future.

Re: A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its human opponent

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you really going to go for the "think of the children" argument...? Although I do agree with you about having an e-stop.

There are in fact times when we need to think about children. If we don't, humanity won't have much of a future.

Quite the contrary, I think. Society has become "soft", for lack of better words. If we had been so risk-averse centuries ago, the industrial revolution would have never happened.
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