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Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by cgriswald »

saxonww wrote: post #356
TameAntelope wrote: post #345

> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

Ideally people would just quietly stop using Twitter and services like it en masse, but that's not going to happen, so it's reasonable for people to complain about mistreatment. And that's what this is: the author got banned for their post violating a 'revenge porn' rule when that's not even close to what they posted. Twitter's content moderation didn't work here. It banned someone incorrectly. That person used the a…

This guy is upset that the free service he uses employs imperfect AI and it affected him personally. I agree we shouldn't be using AI for everything and we might even include humans after an AI makes a call just to verify the call. However, that has a cost and this guy isn't paying. I'd guess this guy wouldn't pay, because having to deal with occasional AI errors is part of the cost and he clearly doesn't want to pay.

So he appealed. Sure. Here's his appeal:

> This is a video from the PlayStation5 game Stray. You cannot possible be this dense.

Verbally abusing reps like this is not acceptable and certainly does nothing to make me sympathetic to this guy. Who would want to help this guy? Even when I was a minimum wage employee at a fast food chain policy was people verbally abusing employees didn't get our food.

So, the appeal was denied.

Now he's going on the warpath because he's 'right'. He's not right. He was right that the ban was nonsense and should not have happened. He stopped being right with his verbal abuse.

His idea to win them over? By fucking himself over. He has 57K followers. That's not nothing to him but in the grand scheme it's essentially nothing to Twitter. He's a supplicant but he thinks he's king. He has no leverage here and rather than being nice he's saying he's going to be more of a jerk. I won't even wish him good luck.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by vorticalbox »

lapcat wrote: post #129

My Twitter account has been suspended multiple times, the last time for an obvious joke. As with the article author here, Twitter reviewed my appeal and denied it. https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/twitter4.html In the end I caved, giving Twitter my phone number and deleting the tweet, because I need my Twitter account for professional purposes. But now guess what, there was a data breach, and hackers are selling m…

This is why you do not use a work/professional account for things other than work.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by bencollier49 »

js2 wrote: post #363

George Orwell's 1984 ? Aldous Huxley's Brave New World ? Nah, we're headed toward Terry Gilliam's Brazil : "Mistake? Haha. We don't make mistakes." https://youtu.be/wzFmPFLIH5s (Or maybe Mike Judge's Idiocracy , but I'd wager Brazil .)

I've always thought that was the most plausible of the dystopias, and it's the most terrifying, because there's literally no way of avoiding becoming a target of the state (or whoever it might be assuming state-like functions).

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by [deleted] »

mkl95 wrote: post #10

> Overnight, I received a response that my appeal had been denied. So a human being, someone who works at Twitter dot com, looked at that video, looked back at the rule it was breaking, looked once again at the video, and went “Yeah, this all checks out.” My guess is that appeals are either processed by some simple code or offloaded to some cheap labour service - such as Amazon Mechanical Turkey or some sweatshop in…

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Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by znpy »

stiltzkin wrote: post #340
Nextgrid wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"broken link" is indeed not the only problem with NFTs, but I'm keen to hear your perspective on NFT use-cases.

ENS (web3 domains), mirror.xyz (publishing), shibuya.xyz (video content), sunflower land (gamefi), membership nfts (bayc). There are more used cases that are experimental. But "broken links" is why I do not take HN users seriously about web3.

Web3 domains, lollerplex.

It took 25 years to start seeing some adoption in the ipv4 to ipv6 transition, and we’re nowhere close to finalising said transition…

if you think dns is going away because of the blockchain then i can start laughing way sooner.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by Firmwarrior »

cgriswald wrote: post #371
saxonww wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally people would just quietly stop using Twitter and services like it en masse, but that's not going to happen, so it's reasonable for people to complain about mistreatment. And that's what this is: the author got banned for their post violating a 'revenge porn' rule when that's not even close to what they posted. Twitter's content moderation didn't work here. It banned someone incorrectly. That person used the a…

This guy is upset that the free service he uses employs imperfect AI and it affected him personally. I agree we shouldn't be using AI for everything and we might even include humans after an AI makes a call just to verify the call. However, that has a cost and this guy isn't paying. I'd guess this guy wouldn't pay, because having to deal with occasional AI errors is part of the cost and he clearly doesn't want to pay…

I don't have a Twitter account and I never will at this rate, since all I ever hear about Twitter is what a shithole it is. Twitter isn't showing me ads and I'm not posting things that could draw more users to Twitter to see more ads. That seems like a real cost to me

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by benlivengood »

TekMol wrote: post #13

Every time I read about these dystopian deplatforming events on Hacker News, my first reaction is to write a comment on how we could find our way out of this. Then the term "Web3" comes up in my mind, and then I think "Oh now, this is HN, they will burn you alive" and I turn to other things again. But right now, for some reason I feel so strongly about, I'll give it another try. Wouldn't it be great if we could tackl…

> I really long for a future where content is published in a freely available database. Free to read from and free to write to. Where a post is a content addressable piece of data signed by the author. And comment too. And where a like is a cryptographically signed message, "I like this /joe". And where the order of your "feed" is not adjusted by outside forces.

Spammers and griefers historically conquer that kind of environment. Usenet fulfilled virtually all of your freeness criteria and now it's a cesspool of spam and worse. Everyone worth talking to has left. Moderation is necessary for quality discussion, or selective membership, or more likely both.

You can make a Merkle tree of signed comments but the problem was never the integrity of the messages (I don't recall anyone messing with the contents of existing Usenet messages) or relationships between them (the worst practical problem was bottom-quoting).

The order of a "feed" is adjusted by the rate at which spam is generated; spam will always be the first result in the feed because that is spammers' objective and they have automated resources to achieve it.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by zdragnar »

snoopy_telex wrote: post #355
teawrecks wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the clear path?

Admitting that the tweet is revenge porn by closing the review request and deleting the tweet. I mean, in this case, I’d likely keep forcing the review too. This is clearly just a bad detection

That's literally admitting to a crime. Even if the crime didn't actually happen, the tweet is gone, so now he's left with having admitted to a crime and no evidence to show that he didn't actually commit it.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Post by pvg »

soraminazuki wrote: post #365
TameAntelope wrote: post #345

> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

Wow, the author got falsely accused of posting revenge porn, a criminal act by the way, and your answer is take it? Why are you so intent on attacking the author’s character for simply defending himself?

Twitter's auto moderation screwing up on your cat game video is not being 'falsely accused of posting revenge porn, a criminal act'.
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