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Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they host articles that complain about being banned on Twitter, but are ok with banning entire countries?

The article isn't about being banned on Twitter. It's about automated moderation (a side effect of which is, yes, a Twitter ban.)

The title of the article is litteraly "How a Clip From Stray Got Me Banned From Twitter".

I fail to see why also discussing the reason of the ban takes anything away from my original point.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#352

It's interesting to read the comments here and the debate around whether social media counts as a public square or not. Ultimately, the web, and social media, is where a majority of our citizens spend a large chunk of their time. While it's certainly true, that you don't _need_ to access them to live your life, for the vast majority of us it would be more than an inconvenience to be banned. In all other aspects of ou…

> These private companies should be considered access points to the social graph, not owners of it, and therefore regulated as such.

Okay, but how? Every time I see calls for regulation, I don't see any specifics.

Regulation isn't a magic wand that solves all problems you don't like while keeping the parts you want to keep. We got regulation for cookies, and now we're all doomed to click cookie banners on every website we visit forever.

What exact regulations would you apply to Twitter to solve this problem without forcing the companies out of business? Any solution that ends up requiring Twitter to fend off constant legal battles from people angry about being banned or requires scores of humans to moderate content to some government-stated standards or face expensive fines just doesn't work. If US websites were suddenly subject to onerous legal standards that weren't required elsewhere, companies would move their headquarters to other countries ASAP.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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post #349

It's interesting to read the comments here and the debate around whether social media counts as a public square or not. Ultimately, the web, and social media, is where a majority of our citizens spend a large chunk of their time. While it's certainly true, that you don't _need_ to access them to live your life, for the vast majority of us it would be more than an inconvenience to be banned. In all other aspects of ou…

> These societal rules and norms, are, and should be governed by a democratic process. By deleting your account at services that show such a licentious behaviour, you can cast your democratic vote against such services. Not doing this or at least starting or joining a huge riot against such services as soon as you hear about such licentious behaviour means casting a democratic vote that what the big tech company is d…

I don't think you know what a democratic vote is.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

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> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

What is the clear path? According to the article he properly followed all of Twitters procedures by appealing TWICE.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#355

> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

What is the clear path?

Admitting that the tweet is revenge porn by closing the review request and deleting the tweet.

I mean, in this case, I’d likely keep forcing the review too. This is clearly just a bad detection

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#356

> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

Ideally people would just quietly stop using Twitter and services like it en masse, but that's not going to happen, so it's reasonable for people to complain about mistreatment. And that's what this is: the author got banned for their post violating a 'revenge porn' rule when that's not even close to what they posted.

Twitter's content moderation didn't work here. It banned someone incorrectly. That person used the appeal process and was denied, even though the content in question unequivocally does not violate the cited rule.

Twitter has no obligation to host anyone's content, and they are within their rights to deny service to someone whenever and for just about whatever reason they want. But this is how you're supposed to handle it! If you've been mistreated by Twitter, you say something, people see it, and they take it into consideration when thinking whether they'd like to start/continue using Twitter.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#357

> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

What is the clear path?

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Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#358

> Here’s the thing: I’m a stinker. Even at my jolliest, if someone figuratively shoulder-checks me, I’m probably going to make so many mountains out of this molehill that I will adjust the topography of the United States significantly. I’m sorry, but this is your real problem, not Twitter banning you. This is called “pride” and is historically recognized as one of the largest “problem creators” as far as emotions go.…

What is the clear path?

"you cannot be unsuspended until either they agree your appeal is correct (which it is), you give up your appeal (never), and/or delete the offending tweet."

Delete the offending tweet.

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"broken link" is indeed not the only problem with NFTs, but I'm keen to hear your perspective on NFT use-cases.

ENS (web3 domains), mirror.xyz (publishing), shibuya.xyz (video content), sunflower land (gamefi), membership nfts (bayc). There are more used cases that are experimental. But "broken links" is why I do not take HN users seriously about web3.

I think there is a form of exhaustion regarding how crypto and Web 3 is supposed to resolve many things that seem to be working just well enough.

I understand that innovations do happen but the complexities (like smart contracts), the limitations of an append only database (that only store transactions and signatures), the damage done to our environment (CO2), the impact on electronic availability (video card shortages), the criminal uses of crypto and the life savings lost to a gambling like international market does make you wonder if this is all worth it.

I’m open to be proven wrong but I personally think that web3 and crypto, while very interesting, don’t have the attributes required to be a worthy innovation path for humankind

Re: A clip from Stray got me banned from Twitter

#360

It's interesting to read the comments here and the debate around whether social media counts as a public square or not. Ultimately, the web, and social media, is where a majority of our citizens spend a large chunk of their time. While it's certainly true, that you don't _need_ to access them to live your life, for the vast majority of us it would be more than an inconvenience to be banned. In all other aspects of ou…

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