Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by indigodaddy » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 11:40 PM UTC

Moving to zsh (2019)
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Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

#2

Post by Maursault » Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 4:54 AM UTC

Good stuff, but, conversely, one may just manually set any user's default shell [1] back to bash, or Bourne, ksh, csh, tcsh, or install and use another as a default shell, such as fish, nsh, nushell, rc, yash, etsh, and so on and so forth.

[1] https://www.howtogeek.com/444596/how-to-change-the-default-s...

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by mattpallissard » Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 8:35 PM UTC

I'm a zsh user, but one thing I miss from bash is /dev/tcp redirection.

    ~  echo /dev/tcp/google.com/80
    ~  echo $?
    0
    ~  echo /dev/tcp/localhost/80
    bash: connect: Network is unreachable
    bash: /dev/tcp/localhost/80: Network is unreachable
    ~  echo $?
    1

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by softjobs » Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 10:55 PM UTC

mattpallissard wrote: post #3

I'm a zsh user, but one thing I miss from bash is /dev/tcp redirection. ~ echo /dev/tcp/google.com/80 ~ echo $? 0 ~ echo /dev/tcp/localhost/80 bash: connect: Network is unreachable bash: /dev/tcp/localhost/80: Network is unreachable ~ echo $? 1

What about https://zsh.sourceforge.io/Doc/Release/TCP-Function-System.h...?

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by LeoPanthera » Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 11:07 PM UTC

I've been using bash since the early 90s and I'm now in my 40s so I think at this point I just have to accept that I will never use another shell.

On Macs, the current version of bash can be installed from Homebrew and you can set it as your default shell in the SysPrefs, in Users > Right-click you > Advanced

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by thebitstick » Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 11:24 PM UTC

First thing I do for any *nix install is immediately install Fish. Like many younger computer users I prefer rainbow barf.

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by celowsky » Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 12:30 AM UTC

Bash can do everything zsh can. You just need to know it well enough. There isn't any reason to change default shells to zsh except for licensing concerns by closed-source minded companies.

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by allurbase » Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 12:30 AM UTC

Why is zsh forced on users anyway? Are there known issues with bash? I’m sure there are - anyone have a link?

Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 12:56 AM UTC

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Re: Moving to zsh (2019)

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Post by dmd » Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 1:02 AM UTC

celowsky wrote: post #7

Bash can do everything zsh can. You just need to know it well enough. There isn't any reason to change default shells to zsh except for licensing concerns by closed-source minded companies.

Of course it can. And a sufficiently large enough piece of paper and a well-sharpened pencil can do anything a computer can, but I suspect most people will choose to go on using computers.