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Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, tricky. On one hand, I enjoy potential for anonymity on the web, and even in a social network I want there to be an option to contribute thoughts/opinions/content anonymously. FB & Twitter's veiled (not even upfront and honest!) insistence on phones is awful. On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace , I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to m…

> On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/ That's an interesting perspective. Is it the 'burner' aspect that you don't want, or the lack of being able to look at someone's social media to determine if this is someone you want to do business with?

Ultimately it's a recursive thing:

If I buy or purchase something from FB marketplace, it's because I desire the real or perceived assurance of a real permanent public identity. Or to put it another way, I want their stake in the game to be comparable to mine.

If somebody is contacting me on FB marketplace in an anonymous fashion with no history or traceability, to me, they're voiding the benefit of FB marketplace. It becomes an uncomfortable asymmetric situation, and I see no benefit, and multiple drawbacks, of engaging with them with my full public, historic, traceable personality, against their black box.

There is nothing wrong with the anonymous mode, in fact it's great - as long as it's symmetric.

If my SugahHoney2001 meets your RoosterBooster17 in a parking lot via Kijiji to exchange some cameras, cool.

If my John Smith meets your Jane Doe at my doorstep with full identity on FB or Linked in to buy some synths, cool.

But if my Tom Jones, 57, Brampton, working for Microsoft, 845 public photos, hobbies of square dancing and kite gliding, is approached by your ___ from ___ and ____, I'm not going to respond - it's placing all the risk and commitment on one side of transaction.

Hope that elaborates my personal perspective somewhat :)

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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I've heard similar things from some female friends of mine who use Craigslist for anon hookups. They've had to move to other websites, of which there are plenty. I don't think 'killed' is the right word, it just wasn't the right platform. > Back in the day, I would pursue Craigslist when I was bored and needed something. Back in the day when I lived in NorCal, I would receive Craiglist via email every week to find ou…

>I've heard similar things from some female friends of mine who use Craigslist for anon hookups.

Wouldn't that fall under the "prostitution" part of the title? From what I understand there isn't/wasn't an actual dating section it was all prostitution ads for years.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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I don't have this experience, and regularly use Craigslist to buy and sell as I always have. Admittedly I never used it for social purposes since there were always other options, so maybe that piece took a hit over the years.

Craiglist is still going strong in rural areas for country things. My wife bought a goat on Craigslist lately.

I read this in Cameron Tucker's voice.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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If any one thing killed Craigslist it was Facebook Marketplace. I used Craigslist to buy and sell things for years; I didn't even know about FB Marketplace until a friend recommended it. I swallowed my hatred of FB to give it a try and it was easily a far better experience than CL at the time. Of late I've noticed that it's become a haven for scammers which is a pretty reliable indicator of success (the scammers go w…

Facebook Marketplace just plain doesn't work for me. I want to look at things in my area but it can't work out that 400 miles away in a different country is not "in my area", and I never ever ever want to see "Delivered to your door" Argos crap.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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The title of this article should have also included trafficking. While it has an overlap with prostitution, it is a heinous, misunderstood, and overlooked issue. It was also the primary reason for why Craigslist removed the Personals section. The Department of Homeland Security has a great section on their website about human trafficking, what it is, how to identify it, how to report it, and so on: https://www.dhs.go…

If anyone would like to explain why this is being downvoted, I would appreciate it

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, tricky. On one hand, I enjoy potential for anonymity on the web, and even in a social network I want there to be an option to contribute thoughts/opinions/content anonymously. FB & Twitter's veiled (not even upfront and honest!) insistence on phones is awful. On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace , I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to m…

> On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/ That's an interesting perspective. Is it the 'burner' aspect that you don't want, or the lack of being able to look at someone's social media to determine if this is someone you want to do business with?

Not the original poster, but my personal concern with Craigslist (and why I rarely use them anymore) is safety issues and/or weirdos.

Unknown people driving by at 2am, folks who look straight out of a ‘COPS’ lineup showing up then ‘not having all the cash’, etc.

Meeting in a public place saves some of the hassle, but adds another - lots of flakes, and time spent getting to and from.

If the item is big ticket enough it’s worth it, but man is it a waste of human effort most of the time. Sad.

With time being more scarce for me now personally, I also just can’t justify dealing with it most of the time.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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post #63
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I've heard similar things from some female friends of mine who use Craigslist for anon hookups. They've had to move to other websites, of which there are plenty. I don't think 'killed' is the right word, it just wasn't the right platform. > Back in the day, I would pursue Craigslist when I was bored and needed something. Back in the day when I lived in NorCal, I would receive Craiglist via email every week to find ou…

>I've heard similar things from some female friends of mine who use Craigslist for anon hookups. Wouldn't that fall under the "prostitution" part of the title? From what I understand there isn't/wasn't an actual dating section it was all prostitution ads for years.

It wasn't dating, it was just for hooking up. No money exchanged.
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