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Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

#41
Craigslist killed craigslist. lack of innovation and development really let the competition get ahead.

Facebook marketplace - as basic as it is, does a much better job of "finding" what you're looking for. In Canada, kijiji (bought by ebay at some point) took it's lunch before marketplace ate them both.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

#42

If the author is reading, there's a typo on the third sentence. > They don't move around things for change the design for the sake of change. should omit "move around things for" or "change the design for"

I think they meant for the first "for" to be an "or."

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

#43
Craigslist is still around though. And they have intentionally stayed small, so I don't see how they're "getting killed".

If CL's values as a company were different, then maybe they would have decided to become a rent-seeker like Facebook, with a six-figure employee headcount and a multi-billion dollar ad business.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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If any one thing killed Craigslist it was Facebook Marketplace. I used Craigslist to buy and sell things for years; I didn't even know about FB Marketplace until a friend recommended it. I swallowed my hatred of FB to give it a try and it was easily a far better experience than CL at the time. Of late I've noticed that it's become a haven for scammers which is a pretty reliable indicator of success (the scammers go w…

I've been trying to sell a gaming laptop on FB Marketplace for local pickup (to avoid seller fees and shipping), and I've gotten about 20 scam attempts. Of the two legit interested buyers, one was a lowballer, and the other wanted me to trade it for a pair of headphones, an iPhone 8, and some shoes (wtf?).

"Will you take in trade?" is annoying when you have no interest in the stuff being offered. I recently bought a Canon 5D Mark III from a seller who also had another lens I wanted to buy. When we met I mentioned that I really wanted to get the other lens too but needed to sell my Sony a6400 and lens before I could justify it... turns out he wanted another a6400 and the lens would be a handy addition so we met one more time for a second transaction. I don't know if he would have accepted the offer for the trade at first had I offered it, but given the type of gear I was buying and what I knew he had for his primary gear I figured my stuff was way too down-market for what he shoots. Had I never asked I would have lost out... so I try not to get offended when people offer a trade as long as it's a reasonable trade.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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post #35
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If any one thing killed Craigslist it was Facebook Marketplace. I used Craigslist to buy and sell things for years; I didn't even know about FB Marketplace until a friend recommended it. I swallowed my hatred of FB to give it a try and it was easily a far better experience than CL at the time. Of late I've noticed that it's become a haven for scammers which is a pretty reliable indicator of success (the scammers go w…

I've been trying to sell a gaming laptop on FB Marketplace for local pickup (to avoid seller fees and shipping), and I've gotten about 20 scam attempts. Of the two legit interested buyers, one was a lowballer, and the other wanted me to trade it for a pair of headphones, an iPhone 8, and some shoes (wtf?).

This, I thought that Facebook gating would reduce spam but have gotten more simjack attempts than on Craigslist

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

#46

I used to offload my used stuff on Craigslist. I was swamped with people intentionally trying to waste my time only to be lowballed at the last minute. Out of principal I would always tell them to F* off. I used to take adds down after the first person who agreed to buy it, these days the ads stays up until the money is in my hand, and I insta block anyone who tries to negotiate. Often it’s still too much of a hassle…

I usually sell stuff that has any value for 50-70% of value to friends or family not to deal with idiots.

Anything that is meh but someone from friends or family would like I give away.

Then I throw away. Even giving stuff away for free can be too much hassle if you put stuff online.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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I think Facebook's introduction of Marketplace is what killed Craigslist.

I created a burner Facebook account just to use Marketplace. On day 0 I'm told that I can't use Marketplace 'yet.' Every day for a few weeks I login and check and get the same message. Sometime at the 3-4 week mark I'm told I need to add a phone number or my account will be disabled. Back to craigslist/nextdoor/etc Edit: My fault for using a loaded term like 'burner'. I don't have a facebook account. I created a 'rea…

Hmm, tricky.

On one hand, I enjoy potential for anonymity on the web, and even in a social network I want there to be an option to contribute thoughts/opinions/content anonymously. FB & Twitter's veiled (not even upfront and honest!) insistence on phones is awful.

On the other hand, when it comes to marketplace, I very much don't want to have a no-name random person with burner phone and fake account showing up to my door to pick up synths or cameras or baby stuff :-/

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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post #21

If any one thing killed Craigslist it was Facebook Marketplace. I used Craigslist to buy and sell things for years; I didn't even know about FB Marketplace until a friend recommended it. I swallowed my hatred of FB to give it a try and it was easily a far better experience than CL at the time. Of late I've noticed that it's become a haven for scammers which is a pretty reliable indicator of success (the scammers go w…

eBay also still alive, also inundated with scammers (from what I’ve seen, mostly targeting sellers).

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve noticed the volume of actual useful stuff for sale is lower than in the past, I think due to Facebook Marketplace. Facebook doesn’t offer anything better, just constant advertisement since it’s right there on the same website people are on to serve their social media addiction.

FB market place fucking suuucks. The few times I've posted stuff, I was inundated with phishing attacks. I was talking to a friend about it, and he actually fell for one of the attacks and had to spend a shit load of time getting his phone number back after they stole it. I actually found guidance from, I think, the FCC on what to do if you're the victim of this. Suggesting that this is a serious problem that FB isn'…

My parents started using marketplace and had mixed success with it. They immediately get messages from scammers who want to use them for phone number verification tricks, which as best I can tell are nearly benign; they just seem to want to use some service that requires a valid US number, not necessarily their number. Still, no good can come of that.

On the other hand they've had some luck actually getting rid of stuff, so that's been good.

Re: Prostitution and Spam Killed Craigslist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve noticed the volume of actual useful stuff for sale is lower than in the past, I think due to Facebook Marketplace. Facebook doesn’t offer anything better, just constant advertisement since it’s right there on the same website people are on to serve their social media addiction.

FB market place fucking suuucks. The few times I've posted stuff, I was inundated with phishing attacks. I was talking to a friend about it, and he actually fell for one of the attacks and had to spend a shit load of time getting his phone number back after they stole it. I actually found guidance from, I think, the FCC on what to do if you're the victim of this. Suggesting that this is a serious problem that FB isn'…

It is so nice with having a small native language. The amount of foreign scams were non-existant until machine translations became viable for them -- but are still easy to spot.

As English speakers you are so much easier targets.

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