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Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by systemvoltage »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #41

The real strategy is to change political will. Right now our politicians are mostly leaning towards as little change as possible towards a climate change solution. That needs to change. WE need to get involved and change people's and politician's minds. Acting alone will do nothing. I can move to one of the poles and try to survive there but ultimately the world wide societal chaos that will be part of the changing e…

> Right now our politicians are mostly leaning towards as little change as possible towards a climate change solution. That needs to change. WE need to get involved and change people's and politician's minds.

First, we need to address the economy and inflation. Then, work on technological solutions to CC. When economy is good, everything is great. Sustainable practices sound awesome. But, when populace is struggling, CC agenda will get thrown out of the window real fast whether laptop class people think one way or the other. Most people on HN haven't faced hardships. This is how you crush middle class in the name of CC and then wonder, why we have a war on our hands.

Everything is linked to the economy. The pandemic destroyed lives of many and immediately 2 months later, you started seeing protests breakout everywhere. That's not a coincidence.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by Ken_At_EM »

antisthenes wrote: post #50
Ken_At_EM wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the idea of tree-planting drones planting millions of acres of new forests.

Drones can't plant trees, unless they know how to handle a shovel. You can technically drop a bunch of seeds on the ground if you don't care about survival rate, but I wouldn't call that planting.

I can’t recall the site but I remember seeing a drone that had some sort of pneumatic seed launcher that could shoot the seed deep enough into the ground.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by defrost »

antisthenes wrote: post #50
Ken_At_EM wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the idea of tree-planting drones planting millions of acres of new forests.

Drones can't plant trees, unless they know how to handle a shovel. You can technically drop a bunch of seeds on the ground if you don't care about survival rate, but I wouldn't call that planting.

Australia is using drone planting on steep slopes to revegetate native trees after selectively killing invaders.

You're correct that the survival rates are much lower than hand planting with a shovel, this is offset by dropping seed embedded nutrient "balls" that do better than seeds alone and by saturating with expectation of low survival.

Cost-wise it's looking to be cheaper than the alternative of slow dangerous scrabbling rope work to lant by hand.

The trials will tell.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by defrost »

Been doing a slew of things over the past few decades, ATM one project is mass trialing of thousands of wheat, barley, canola, etc varieties to build data on those that thrive in hotter more humid conditions .. and building a library of high yield varieties against a broad range of conditions.

This is going on throughout the length and breadth of Western Australia and using a lot of automated instrumentation for logging soil conditions, multi spectral growth imagry, etc.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by D13Fd »

systemvoltage wrote: post #51
WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #41

The real strategy is to change political will. Right now our politicians are mostly leaning towards as little change as possible towards a climate change solution. That needs to change. WE need to get involved and change people's and politician's minds. Acting alone will do nothing. I can move to one of the poles and try to survive there but ultimately the world wide societal chaos that will be part of the changing e…

> Right now our politicians are mostly leaning towards as little change as possible towards a climate change solution. That needs to change. WE need to get involved and change people's and politician's minds. First, we need to address the economy and inflation. Then, work on technological solutions to CC. When economy is good, everything is great. Sustainable practices sound awesome. But, when populace is struggling,…

Politicians have been doing their best to improve the economy for a very long time. If we have to wait for them to succeed before we take action on climate change, then we are never taking action on climate change.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by kcplate »

moltar wrote: post #25

Adaptation

This the only reasonable and realistic answer. Humans and life in general have been managing to adapt to all sorts of environmental conditions over a helluva long time. The fact that we as a species can inhabit both Siberia and Senegal tells me we will survive and thrive just fine.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by systemvoltage »

D13Fd wrote: post #56
systemvoltage wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Right now our politicians are mostly leaning towards as little change as possible towards a climate change solution. That needs to change. WE need to get involved and change people's and politician's minds. First, we need to address the economy and inflation. Then, work on technological solutions to CC. When economy is good, everything is great. Sustainable practices sound awesome. But, when populace is struggling,…

Politicians have been doing their best to improve the economy for a very long time. If we have to wait for them to succeed before we take action on climate change, then we are never taking action on climate change.

People need to get a grip. When your child is hungry, you've lost your job because of some elitist regulation (see Dutch farmer protests) and your savings are dwindling; no one gives a fuck about climate change. It would be literally the last thing on their mind. We need to be compassionate and listen to the cries.

What worries me are the assholes that are on their laptops all day drinking $15 wheat grass smoothies virtue signaling how they're helping climate change by using paper straws. It makes zero difference, yet they're the loudest people influencing policy decisions.

Here is another blow to environmentalists that led EU into the corner, just today: https://www.ft.com/content/cf84dde3-9020-4ee7-a6d0-2809863da...

Climate policies are going to dismantle societies into chaos.

Re: Ask HN: What's your climate change survival strategy?

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Post by antisthenes »

defrost wrote: post #54
antisthenes wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drones can't plant trees, unless they know how to handle a shovel. You can technically drop a bunch of seeds on the ground if you don't care about survival rate, but I wouldn't call that planting.

Australia is using drone planting on steep slopes to revegetate native trees after selectively killing invaders. You're correct that the survival rates are much lower than hand planting with a shovel, this is offset by dropping seed embedded nutrient "balls" that do better than seeds alone and by saturating with expectation of low survival. Cost-wise it's looking to be cheaper than the alternative of slow dangerous s…

That sounds like an interesting method. Got a link?
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