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The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Here's the fact: The web is a computing paradigm that was not designed for mobile.

A mobile device is just another client. The web was designed to be agnostic in that regard, was it not?

no it was not. hence the need for "mobile" versions of websites and various hacks to make the web work on mobile devices.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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A mobile device is just another client. The web was designed to be agnostic in that regard, was it not?

no it was not. hence the need for "mobile" versions of websites and various hacks to make the web work on mobile devices.

How does that follow? That's saying that the mobile clients don't implement everything, not that http isn't agnostic.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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No. Somebody please stop this guy. After reading this I feel about him like the machines must have when they sent the Terminator back in time to kill Sarah Connor. Web apps are to native mobile apps as Java apps are to native desktop apps: ploddingly slow with clunky non-standard UIs—a degraded, lackluster experience. With some notable exceptions I think they can be a pragmatically motivated stopgap step (in regards…

Web apps don't have to be as "good" as native apps to succeed. They just have to be good enough. Remember that web mail exploded in popularity in the late 90s. Do you remember what the experience was like on Yahoo Mail in 1999? Full page refreshes on dial-up modems to see a single email. Yet people swarmed to Yahoo Mail, Hotmail, and the like.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Here's the fact: The web is a computing paradigm that was not designed for mobile.

A mobile device is just another client. The web was designed to be agnostic in that regard, was it not?

"When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail"

The web is just another computing paradigm with its own strengths and weaknesses. It's not the be all and end all of mobile.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Web apps beat native apps because there's no install step, no upgrade step and hyperlinks provide the ultimate way for different apps to communicate with each other.

There _is_ an install step to almost all web apps, and it generally involves having to fill out a boring form, clicking through from a confirmation email, and trying to remember a username and password every week for the rest of the app's useful life.

This is unique to applications that wish to store users' data in a central location.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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Yahoo has just announced Yahoo Cocktails, a set of tools for developers to use that make web apps look and behave more like native apps. Mozilla is working on tools to help developers sell web-based apps to mobile device users, enabling them to make profits just as developers in the iTunes App Store or Android Market can now do. Yes, we can finally relegate this obsolete dinosaur to the dustbin of history once we fai…

I don't think we'll be replicating the "can only run on only one OS" aspect of it, among others.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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The question is: besides games, how many apps really use richer interactions than what's already possible using web technologies?

All multimedia content creation apps. Think DJ apps, music creation, audio editing, video editing, 3d modeling, image editing and illustration, etc. Basically everything that makes computers creative tools instead of information management devices. I don't see web versions of any of these seriously challenging native any time soon. Hell, even spreadsheets and word processors are still better in native. I don't unders…

Those are all desktop apps, though. Mobile apps - like the ones referred to by the article - are rarely for content creation.

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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The question is: besides games, how many apps really use richer interactions than what's already possible using web technologies?

All multimedia content creation apps. Think DJ apps, music creation, audio editing, video editing, 3d modeling, image editing and illustration, etc. Basically everything that makes computers creative tools instead of information management devices. I don't see web versions of any of these seriously challenging native any time soon. Hell, even spreadsheets and word processors are still better in native. I don't unders…

From your comment it becomes clear: At the moment "web" is primarily a data display platform. Not surprising, given its pedigree. Input techniques are quite limited... Especially responsive ones we've become used to on mobile. Sounds like a good project to work on..

Re: The mobile app is going the way of the CD-ROM: To the dustbin of history

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All multimedia content creation apps. Think DJ apps, music creation, audio editing, video editing, 3d modeling, image editing and illustration, etc. Basically everything that makes computers creative tools instead of information management devices. I don't see web versions of any of these seriously challenging native any time soon. Hell, even spreadsheets and word processors are still better in native. I don't unders…

Those are all desktop apps, though. Mobile apps - like the ones referred to by the article - are rarely for content creation.

Not yet, but these things are converging. There are already fledgling implementations of a lot of these tools available for iPads.
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