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Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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24 year olds? Since when are they sending the senior consultants out on engagements like this! I lasted not even 6 months working in professional services, really woke me up to what "prestigious careers" really are.

Is there good money to be made though? If idiots are happy to pay more for shit than they do for quality work I'll happily deliver them shit.

your sales game needs to be world class though. that’s all that really matters.

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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"Content Management – Adobe Experience Manager (AEM) was the tool of choice to update and revise the content that appears on the website." If you want to blow a massive development budget AEM is a great choice; otherwise I'd advise you to pick a different content system. This decision alone probably sunk multiple millions of dollars. The platform license alone for their operating scale was probably a half million or…

Why anyone would pick that over a bunch of very mature open source offerings (with much larger developer communities) is beyond me.

Just curious, which OSS CMS would you recommend for that kind of site?

I work with Drupal and WordPress, but would not recommend them for user data or transactional data (although in my case, we bridge Drupal/WordPress with CiviCRM, and that works relatively well).

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

24 year olds? Since when are they sending the senior consultants out on engagements like this! I lasted not even 6 months working in professional services, really woke me up to what "prestigious careers" really are.

Is there good money to be made though? If idiots are happy to pay more for shit than they do for quality work I'll happily deliver them shit.

Did you read the title?

When I was at a consulting firm in London that I wont name, I was charging them 700GBP a day, and they were charging the end client 1500GBP a day (I saw this on an internal presentation slide I was not supposed to see)

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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My main question is: who hires Accenture for this kind of job, for no less than $32m??? They would be my last point of call, literally after my mum, and maybe even after my dog. At least he's cheap.

I often wonder how much it would cost to literally hire the best freelancers in the market today to build their alternative to this monstrosity

100x cheaper.

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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Sounds about right. I have never ever seen a web consulting group deliver anything that isn't complete trash, late, never, or some combination thereof.

Individual consultants can be okay. Consulting firms tend to be complete trash and make a living off the technically ignorant. Seems to be worse in web than other areas.

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

24 year olds? Since when are they sending the senior consultants out on engagements like this! I lasted not even 6 months working in professional services, really woke me up to what "prestigious careers" really are.

Is there good money to be made though? If idiots are happy to pay more for shit than they do for quality work I'll happily deliver them shit.

If you've never worked for a big consulting shop it's hard to explain what it can be like. I BILLED 2,800 hours my first (and only) full year, and spent most weeks out of town. They love to take you out for dinner with your consulting coworkers while on engagement, but you quickly realize this is to (a) keep you onsight until 7 or 8pm, (b) prevent you from developing a life outside of the company, and (c) hey, maybe we should head back to the office after dinner for a little bit... It's fun for a while when you're young, single and stupid.

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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I've never heard of a truly successful project by these large scale consulting firms. Even the so called success stories seem ... mediocre at best. Has anyone been part of such a project at a firm like that?

I'd say recreation.gov by Booz Allen Hamilton is pretty good. Some of the policies are disputed (e.g., racing for camp sites), but the technology works very well.

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was being billed at > $300/hr when I first got out of school at 21 as consultant. 24 would make someone a senior consultant!

How much of that $$$ did you get to keep?

I was billed out at around $300 an hour and paid salary of 75K plus porfit sharing (sometimes) and bonus based on billability

Re: Hertz paid Accenture $32M for a website that never went live (2019)

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Seen this way too many times to recount in a comment. Stupid company hires stupid company to do massive project, neither side is competent to do anything but waste/collect money.

I talked once with an airline who had outsourced their entire dev and dev management to some foreign companies; they wanted to hire a mobile dev to go to where the team was and try to figure out why nothing was getting done, as they had no in house knowledge about mobile at all. I said hell no. Nothing ever shipped that I saw and I think they gave up and went back to in house again eventually. Just because you are a big company doesn't mean you have a clue.

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