#12 makes me sick, but is understandable I suppose. I feel like it implies anecdotal evidence > fact based evidence.
Lesser Known Ways to Persuade People
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#22> Guadagno & Cialdini research (2002) showed that men seem more responsive to email because it bypasses their competitive tendencies. Women, however, may respond better in face-to-face encounters because they are more ‘relationship-minded’ Yawn. Maybe we just don't want to deal with salespeople but instead judge the product on our own without being harassed. How is that supposed to be competitive? Oh, I forgot, the s…
Maybe we just don't want to deal with salespeople but instead judge the product on our own without being harassed.
It astonishes me that you're able to describe interactions with salespeople as being "harassed" yet can't understand how it could be construed as competitive.
(Not that the study you're dismissing has anything to do with salespeople... You'd be better off attacking the tenuous and speculative suggestion that author has made based on a reading that study rather than attempting to nuke the proverbial site from orbit with such a monumentally tired argument as "I don't believe it so it can't possibly be true".)
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#23> Guadagno & Cialdini research (2002) showed that men seem more responsive to email because it bypasses their competitive tendencies. Women, however, may respond better in face-to-face encounters because they are more ‘relationship-minded’ Yawn. Maybe we just don't want to deal with salespeople but instead judge the product on our own without being harassed. How is that supposed to be competitive? Oh, I forgot, the s…
Maybe we just don't want to deal with salespeople but instead judge the product on our own without being harassed. It astonishes me that you're able to describe interactions with salespeople as being "harassed" yet can't understand how it could be construed as competitive. (Not that the study you're dismissing has anything to do with salespeople... You'd be better off attacking the tenuous and speculative suggestion…
> It astonishes me that you're able to describe interactions with salespeople as being "harassed" yet can't understand how it could be construed as competitive.
You make it sound like I'm drooling into a cup. So the competitiveness hypothesis resonates with you personally? Don't just imply that I'm stupid, explain to me what the competition actually is, and why I am automatically triggered into participating just because I have a penis.
> You'd be better off attacking the tenuous and speculative suggestion that author has made based on a reading that study rather than attempting to nuke the proverbial site from orbit with such a monumentally tired argument as "I don't believe it so it can't possibly be true"
I'm straining to see how this rhetoric can come from someone who is - in their own words - "just here for the polite and friendly atmosphere". However, I think I am attacking a piece of tenuous and speculative suggestion the author has made. I get that you disagree, I just don't get your specific objection.
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#24"13 things you can do right now to increase your conversion rate.
#1: block the content."
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#25One of the best ways to influence people is to ask someone to do a favor for you. Especially if the person you are asking has more perceived power. It is called the "Ben Franklin Effect"
Teenage girl (to teenage guy):
"Can you help me with my homework?"
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#26For what it's worth, most of these examples (and more) are in Cialdini's book Influence: http://www.amazon.com/Influence-Psychology-Persuasion-Busine...
Actually they're not. I specifically point out in the beginning of the article that I don't cover stuff from Cialdini's Influence (as it's been over covered). Who hasn't read it yet, definitely should.
Ah ok. I just skimmed over this and assumed they were from Cialdini, because I have heard most of them before.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Robert Cialdini, one of the people behind this study, is one of the most respected people in the field in the last 20 years.
I have no opinion about this guy one way or the other. Even brilliant people can make mistakes, and even brilliant scientists can be victims of their own preconceptions. I'm not trying to trash his life's work, I'm having serious doubts about the premises and results of this study specifically. [Edit] Just a strange observation: yours is essentially an argument from authority ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_f…
Appeals to authority aren't necessarily fallacious if the authority is an authority in a relevant field.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Robert Cialdini, one of the people behind this study, is one of the most respected people in the field in the last 20 years.
I have no opinion about this guy one way or the other. Even brilliant people can make mistakes, and even brilliant scientists can be victims of their own preconceptions. I'm not trying to trash his life's work, I'm having serious doubts about the premises and results of this study specifically. [Edit] Just a strange observation: yours is essentially an argument from authority ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_f…
Not quite, It was pointed out it was a cited article, you called the author into question, and was shown the author is credible.
The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no opinion about this guy one way or the other. Even brilliant people can make mistakes, and even brilliant scientists can be victims of their own preconceptions. I'm not trying to trash his life's work, I'm having serious doubts about the premises and results of this study specifically. [Edit] Just a strange observation: yours is essentially an argument from authority ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_f…
Appeals to authority aren't necessarily fallacious if the authority is an authority in a relevant field.
While the authority may not necessarily be wrong, the appeal itself is vulnerable to being issued for fallacious reasons, namely if it is made to prevent critical reasoning about the original hypothesis. The idea that authorities are infallible is a trap. Nothing should be beyond scrutiny.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no opinion about this guy one way or the other. Even brilliant people can make mistakes, and even brilliant scientists can be victims of their own preconceptions. I'm not trying to trash his life's work, I'm having serious doubts about the premises and results of this study specifically. [Edit] Just a strange observation: yours is essentially an argument from authority ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_f…
Not quite, It was pointed out it was a cited article, you called the author into question, and was shown the author is credible. The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\
As I said many times in this thread: I called the study's conclusions into question, not the author.
> The only fallacies are coming from your posts, not from the article in question... :\
After fighting you guys for the last our without one single person agreeing with me, I'm inclined to say you're right. I should probably stop posting now. It wasn't my intention to upset anyone. I'm sorry.