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Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by prepend »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

I think it’s worse because they are forced to use SharePoint for basic functions like storing and sharing files. SharePoint is weird in that it shouldn’t be so bad, it’s just a wiki, but somehow it is bad.

Teams reusing SharePoint instead of just using some simple file store means that basic operations like “let’s store some files for this team and let people collaborate” becomes buggy and weird.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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imperialdrive wrote: post #107
mbesto wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have been historically comfortable with MS Outlook, then O365's email service is far superior in every imaginable possible over GSuite...with ONE big exception of the web interface. But alas, I don't need a web interface for an application I might use 12hrs/day. Teams/OneDrive is hot garbage.

Eh hem... spam functionality tho? It's a killer, and Google has it down pretty well for obvious reasons.

I’m pretty happy with 365’s spam filtering. I get fewer spam messages through my work using 365 than my personal using gmail.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by Bancakes »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

It's laughable how Microsoft can afford to create and maintain OS No. 1 but can't write a chat app in C++.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by zedadex »

ajoseps wrote: post #87
BrissyCoder wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint... I don't get all the hate for Teams. I work fully-remote on a medium sized team. We use Teams for one-one calls, team calls, presentations, screen-sharing, calls to external numbers and I've never had any problems. I run it on a Windows desktop and an Android phone. I've never had performance problems or crashes on either. Some of the file-sharing/explorer stuff is a bit janky in terms of UI but I don'…

Have you tried copy/pasting from teams to another application, or especially code snippets? If you're lucky you can copy what you highlight, otherwise you copy the entire text of the current message with timestamp and all. Code snippets are a pain to get right. The tilde key is the shortcut to get monospace fonts or code blocks, and it feels like I roll the die everytime I try to convert text to a code block. Telecon…

> Have you tried copy/pasting from teams to another application, or especially code snippets?

Pasting in teams is hilarious. I think when I last tried they were using contenteditable, as formatting that should not have carried over did so, along with the indentation going haywire on paste.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by [deleted] »

hamstrung wrote: post #94
capybara_2020 wrote: post #47

Has anyone had a good experience with Microsoft's online products? I tried using Office 365 recently for a small side project after using Google apps for years. Their email has like 5-10 messages come in every day about hotfixes, updates etc. Even after turning everything off, I still get a few emails from them every few days. Missed important emails in all that noise. Outlook randomly decided to delete all my emails…

I can't tell if you're astroturfing, but just in case you're not, your problems are pretty easy to fix. To blur your background on Teams, go to background options while on a call. Click 'Blur'. Here are the steps if you get confused on the way: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-your-backg... To start a meeting, either generate a meeting in the Calendar and it'll add a Teams call link in, or under the…

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Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by paleotrope »

prepend wrote: post #111
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

I think it’s worse because they are forced to use SharePoint for basic functions like storing and sharing files. SharePoint is weird in that it shouldn’t be so bad, it’s just a wiki, but somehow it is bad. Teams reusing SharePoint instead of just using some simple file store means that basic operations like “let’s store some files for this team and let people collaborate” becomes buggy and weird.

Sharepoint is like this big black hole where things go in but you are really stuck trying to get them out again.

I don't know why or how sharepoint has such a grip on MS. It's a super shitty experience to work with sharepoint.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by lttlrck »

mrcartmeneses wrote: post #93
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

It’s so bad that if an organisation uses Teams I take that as a red flag and would decline to be interviewed for a permanent job AND will price that in for my contract rate. For me, use of teams signals the impotence/incompetence of the CTO and that other poor technical and managerial choices will persist at the organisation.

So Mr Consultant, what would you recommend a Microsoft shop uses?

Not everyone is keen on IRC, or having a relationship with Salesforce.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

thefz wrote: post #90
Andoryuuta wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program." A chat program? Easy. A chat program with 270 million monthly active users? Slightly harder, but sure, still easy. A chat program with 270 million monthly active users that has to integrate the entire Microsoft ecosystem [sharepoint, outlook mail + calendar + contacts, yammer, O365 groups, etc] because that is what their enterprise customers demand? Slightly…

Daily Teams user and I agree with you. Maybe the scope is too broad. But the UI is the worst part. I have around 50 chats open and switching from one to another usually takes more than 10 seconds. Joining a large-ish meeting takes 30 seconds of hearing audio and no response from the UI. Usually the day to day experience is really, really bad. I wish they got rid of this js-on-the-desktop crap and rewrite it in a dece…

The UI is so bad. The whole interface feels like some borderless desert. The list of channels is a jumble of bold and not-bold text, free-floating in space, with no icons or colors or meaningful sorting. And then 20 "hidden channels", which... why are they hidden, and why do I have to unhide them individually?? And why is the "Chats" window literally a jumble of random chats from random Teams and individuals??? Why are Teams and Chats the same content but in different panes?? Why is the "Feed" just a new view of the same Teams / Chats windows?

I feel like they had to try hard to make it this unintuitive and ugly.

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