European democracy at its best. Proud to be European today.
this is democracy? Seems like extortion and protectionism to me. If this affected any European companies I would just call it anti-business, but instead it's clearly xenophobia.
EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
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Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
#902The big question now is.... Will this unlock Apple devices worldwide, or will apple make special EU-firmware which only gives this legally mandated functionality for phones sold in the EU?
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
#903This should have been named the Law of Unintended Consequences. In the most abstract, opening up mobile and messaging platforms is a Good Thing. Unfortunately it is going to cause a mass of real world problems and will have significant negative consequences. Requiring alternate App Stores will mean Facebook, Epic (Tencent), TikTok, and Scams R Us will all set up their own app stores. Their apps will slowly move to th…
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
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Can you explain why this is a bad thing?
This bring more choiche power to the final user. But are final users always in position to make such choiches? Do the final user always have the competence? If you open the app store walled gardens good things can enter, but even bad things. Today if you buy an iPhone to you son you sure that apps are reviewed by Apple. With this ACT, nor Apple, nor other provider can give you this certainty of app moderation.
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
#905This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
#906What's the plan for enforcing it? Did the United States sign off on it? In my opinion they need the US buy-in, and there actually need to be criminal penalties enforced against top executives (jail time) and the other executives need to see it happen. Unless they do that stuff it seems like they may really try to ignore and delay and do the absolute minimum effort.
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
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Linux has been hacked and is no better when Windows?
OP made an unsubstantiated claim that Apple products are more secure. I pointed that out.
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
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I think six months is a pretty unreasonable time frame for Apple. While the security concerns around this sort of thing are often overblown, Apple will need to rework their security model for the iPhone. If there is an API surface between the OS and the App Store, they may need to rework it since it's not been designed with third party stores in mind.
What timeline do you think the Gatekeepeers would prefer? Is it a reasonable goal to let BigTech drag it's feet making these changes they didn't want to do on their own accord in the first place? Amazing things are possible when the incentive is right. Given their VAST resources, it's only a matter of focus.
Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
#909This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…
> * Make core messaging functionality interoperable. They lay out concrete examples like file transfer It's entirely possible that to enable compliance with this will require explicit compromises to the security of iMessage, for example by requiring key exchange with startup messaging providers. The other rules seem to prohibit Apple from describing the risks involved in such a compromise. > * Use existing hardware a…
That's what tech companies like to say. But from experiences with less tech-savy friends, the current way always leads people to share as much as possible. Opt-out is always harder than opt-in.
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While I agree with this, I'm interested in seeing what the long term security consequences are. These are all the highest risk API and integration surfaces on mobile devices. Also I hope Microsoft get pulled into this as well because they're slowly turning Windows into a marketing device. Edit: as an iOS user I'm optimistic that this will lead to complete device network whitelist capabilities though so you can neuter…
> I'm interested in seeing what the long term security consequences are. Negligible; most large-format computing devices already allow you to do all of these things.