EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

Post by unity1001 » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 9:55 AM UTC

wokwokwok wrote: post #243

bloppe wrote: post #81

It blows my mind how many people have bought into Apple's position on this. No, Apple restricting your freedom does not afford you greater security. You, as an adult, can choose not to install shady software. If you're not confident in your ability to tell shady from legit, just stick to the App Store. Don't demand that Apple treat the rest of us like children just because that's how you would like to be treated.

Ah, it's so easy to write something like this, but... > No, Apple restricting your freedom does not afford you greater security. No, Apple restricting your freedom does not afford you greater security. You don't know anything about me. How can you possibly make the call on what makes me secure or not? Not being able to install malware... that is by definition more secure than being able to install malware. > If you'r…

Post by unity1001 » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 10:04 AM UTC

antonymy wrote: post #416

JohnGB wrote: post #266

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That's an ironic take given that these rules are there to take away monopoly power and have an actual open market.

Apple is not even close to a monopoly, especially in Europe, where they have less than a third of the mobile market. That said, the rest of the market is divided up between several different Android phone companies, so Apple is in fact the largest single mobile vendor in the EU (Samsung is neck and neck with them though, and may have overtaken them since I last checked). So from a regulatory standpoint, Apple is the…

Post by stackbutterflow » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 10:12 AM UTC

pmcollins wrote: post #743

hestefisk wrote: post #92

European democracy at its best. Proud to be European today.

did you feel proud when the eu passed the cookie law? are you proud every time you have to wait for and click through a cookie modal? (never mind the development costs) you might end up with an ad- and app-store- riddled europhone and if you decide that you want to buy a us or international spec iphone you won’t be permitted to do so.

Post by d12bb » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 10:16 AM UTC

theplumber wrote: post #682

alkonaut wrote: post #672

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Having used iPhones since the very earliest ones, I also fear this might turn it into an Android situation. I like iPhone because I know it’s likely the page works in Safari since iOS+Safari is a large customer group. While choice, a diverse web, competition & all that is important, I personally wouldn’t want anything but a walled garden monoculture in most cases. Being able to integrate a different voice assistant??…

>> I know it’s likely the page works in Safari since iOS+Safari is a large customer group That until you find out some of the best web technologies are not working on safari(i.e indexeddb has been left unfixed for years on purpose by apple). I don't think people would like a safari only on desktop. Why would they want that on mobile?

Post by HeavyStorm » Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 10:18 AM UTC

brtkdotse wrote: post #185

yoavm wrote: post #100

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Interestingly enough, an iPhone that complies with these demands is actually the first iPhone I'd ever consider paying for. I wonder if this might actually increase adoption.

It’s not a popular opinion around here, but the reason I like my iPhone is _because_ it’s a walled garden. It just works, reliably, without surprises, for years on end.