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This is not good. I really enjoy the security of the walled garden that IOS is right now. Some say just don’t install a third party app store. My line of thinking is that takes the power away from the individual. Lets take for instance an app that everyone seems to want: TikTok. Right now they must abide by the app store rules and do security the way Apple requires and I want. This is the ONLY way they get onto the m…
European democracy at its best. Proud to be European today.
did you feel proud when the eu passed the cookie law? are you proud every time you have to wait for and click through a cookie modal? (never mind the development costs) you might end up with an ad- and app-store- riddled europhone and if you decide that you want to buy a us or international spec iphone you won’t be permitted to do so.
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Most of these rules apply only to companies above a certain size, both in number of users and revenue. Those get classified as "digital gatekeepers" and they are the companies that have to comply with extra requirements. So no, this will not affect startups and harm innovation, it will just force the monopolistic behemoths to play nice and cease actively harming innovation.
It also starts to bother me quite a bit when we go from treating everyone equal before the law to creating certain requirements based on other factors. Further it seems more like a moat to keep anyone else from getting as big as these "digital gatekeepers" are as suddenly when you get to a certain size you have an enormous expense. If these companies really are that large that they have to get special laws for them i…
We already do that. We always did that. We regard things that are used larger than a certain scale as infrastructure. Roads. Justice system. Military. Power network.
We always heavily regulated these. Entire world except the US also regulated the Internet backbone as a utility. So nowhere in the world do people and companies have to still pay mid-2000s prices for bandwidth like they have to in the US after 1990s regulations expired and major ISPs started to consolidate entire backbone. They even tried to declare the Internet backbone, therefore the Internet, their 'private property' to be able to do whatever they wanted.
When tech monopolies go over a certain size and become literal infrastructures that everyone HAS to use one way or the other, they should get the same treatment.
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I think six months is a pretty unreasonable time frame for Apple. While the security concerns around this sort of thing are often overblown, Apple will need to rework their security model for the iPhone. If there is an API surface between the OS and the App Store, they may need to rework it since it's not been designed with third party stores in mind.
They will negotiate a proper time frame. It will take years till we see the benefits. The EU will charge them a smaller fine and give them some time with that. Not their first rodeo on both sides.
When Eu put out the 'browser ballot box' requirement for OSes, Microsoft said that it was technically very complicated, near impossible to implement it.
Then the Eu started fining Microsoft ~700,000 Euros a week or something.
Microsoft magically made the ballot box happen within a week.
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This bring more choiche power to the final user. But are final users always in position to make such choiches? Do the final user always have the competence? If you open the app store walled gardens good things can enter, but even bad things. Today if you buy an iPhone to you son you sure that apps are reviewed by Apple. With this ACT, nor Apple, nor other provider can give you this certainty of app moderation.
Your son can also open the door to strangers and let them in or can stab himself with a knife or fork. What are we going to do to make knives, forks and doors more secure?
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> Fines are up to 10% of global revenue for the first offense, and 20% for repeat offenses. For Alphabet (Google) the revenue distribution from 2015 to 2021 was approximately 33% for all of Europe, Middle-east, and Africa. It's unclear to me the actual European numbers since they are combined EMEA. For Apple in 2021 the revenue was approximately 23% for Europe (no middle-east or Africa). For Facebook in 2021 the reve…
The EU regulations are often quickly adopted in other market places in similar fashions. Leaving the EU might be a calculation worth, but leaving the rest of the world is often prohibitive. Do not forget here: These are countries which existed hundred of years before FAANG and will exist hundreds of years after FAANG. They have to protect themselves as a society but also as a constitutional body. If you let the monop…
Yep. Its amazing how the rest of the world tolerated being moderated on the Internet per - mainly American - foreign laws and even cultural norms up until this point.
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IMHO, extremely low. The DMA has passed final debate and review, so it's not changing now. The last step is basically a formality. The beauty of the EU is that corporate financial influence is far less pervasive than even in the governments of member nations. The level of abstraction is just too large. Apple, Google, Amazon, et al., can wage a PR campaign, but it's highly unlikely to succeed.
> The beauty of the EU is that corporate financial influence is far less pervasive than even in the governments of member nations. [citation needed] The reason this regulations went through easily is that they mostly target foreign operators. It's not the same with all regulations, the EU is a lobbying battleground as much as everywhere else, you can see that in most things, big corps just go through governments when…
The law doesn't even cover devices. It only covers online marketplaces and gatekeepers who control everything.
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IMHO, extremely low. The DMA has passed final debate and review, so it's not changing now. The last step is basically a formality. The beauty of the EU is that corporate financial influence is far less pervasive than even in the governments of member nations. The level of abstraction is just too large. Apple, Google, Amazon, et al., can wage a PR campaign, but it's highly unlikely to succeed.
I think you are completely mad if thy think that corporate financial influence is far less. Where do you think the EU staff come from? What happens is you are promoted out of the corporate world and into EU council advisory positions (special advisors). So you end up a fill time EU advisory position with part time and contract work for your parent company. Or there's the full time corporate advisors (institutional sp…
And initiatives like this, same with the Microsoft ballot box initiative, are generally brought to Euparl and led by left-wing MPs, especially communists. There is considerable awareness and following of Open Source in Eu political circles, including Euparl.
Incidentally, a Green-Left coalition dominates Euparl right at this moment as far as I know.
This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…
> Install any software Scams proliferate, praying on elderly and young. Widespread tracking of your location, browsing history. Same with other points, narrow, selfish thinking.
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IMHO, extremely low. The DMA has passed final debate and review, so it's not changing now. The last step is basically a formality. The beauty of the EU is that corporate financial influence is far less pervasive than even in the governments of member nations. The level of abstraction is just too large. Apple, Google, Amazon, et al., can wage a PR campaign, but it's highly unlikely to succeed.
> The beauty of the EU is that corporate financial influence is far less pervasive than even in the governments of member nations. [citation needed] The reason this regulations went through easily is that they mostly target foreign operators. It's not the same with all regulations, the EU is a lobbying battleground as much as everywhere else, you can see that in most things, big corps just go through governments when…