I wonder how anyone will be able to tell the difference.
Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
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Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
#62It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…
The teleconferencing part (the 'hard' part) is actually very decent in my opinion. I've never had issues with calls, sharing video or sharing the screen, it just works. Features such as showing hand, breakout rooms and so on also seem to work well. I agree on everything else though. The 'chat' part and the main UI are so janky and buggy. Even simple things like copy pasting or formatting code don't work the way you w…
Lucky. Teams always freezes random people for me, has constant audio issues, sharing screens has terrible UX and unbearable frame rate... it's just so laughably bad compared to any other major option out there.
Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
#63It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…
>They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program "too many cooks spoil the broth" is a saying for a reason. If hiring more people would solve every problem we'd have fewer problems. Every team trying to bolt their random features on software suites like this is usually why they end up in their bloated states to begin with. If you wanted to fix software like this the only solutio…
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Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
#64It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…
Counterpoint... I don't get all the hate for Teams. I work fully-remote on a medium sized team. We use Teams for one-one calls, team calls, presentations, screen-sharing, calls to external numbers and I've never had any problems. I run it on a Windows desktop and an Android phone. I've never had performance problems or crashes on either. Some of the file-sharing/explorer stuff is a bit janky in terms of UI but I don'…
In one company, I had strictly no problems with Teams, was working correctly, quality was great, with another, it was plagued with bugs. I suspect that it's highly configurable and highly dependent of windows policies that are set +network.
At client, windows itself was unusable and people were blaming Microsoft... No it's the package team who did a shit job.
Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
#65It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…
Design by committee.
Teams looks like a product that's stuck 5 years behind the market because everything is done with 15 program managers with briefcases full of wireframe diagrams.
Everything is make work by 15 managers of managers, pulling 600k, justifying their paycheques.
Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
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Strongly, strongly doubt the problem is due to lazy coders.
Organizations like this are always, always dysfunctional at the leadership level.
ICs don't design the UX or choose the technology for Microsoft teams, senior principal architects and deputy vice president corporate usabilities do.
The Vice President in charge of this is allowing their directors to engage in ridiculous design by committee.
Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
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Slack said controlling screens was too difficult. I was sad to see them remove it. They do have the ability to draw on other users screen, something I use much more.
> Slack said controlling screens was too difficult ....wait, what?? Teams, Webex, Zoom... Every other teleconference app can do it, so isn't this like admitting they're either not smart or lazy? I would be totally fine with them removing video altogether and just keeping Huddles, but doing video without the remote control (and their video calls take an eternity to load, wtf?) is real weird
I have never seen controlling desktop on teams ever work. It’s alway 10 minutes of messing around followed by the person giving up.
Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users
#68It keeps amazing me that teams and vs code are made at the same company.
I bet the difference is teams has to play ball deeply with Microsofts famously hideous login systems whereas code is a standalone product (Visual Studio is also good, everywhere except the bit where you have to log in to license it).
I've coded up Microsoft's collection of login systems. They are actually not that extraordinarily difficult to use.
Whatever is happening in Teams it's its own special sauce of terrible, combined with a complete reluctance to shoot Teams in the head and start again.