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Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

nichos wrote: post #19
amir734jj wrote: post #11

I work at Microsoft and I don't like Teams. However, I recently checked out Slack to chat with old coworkers and I realized Slack dropped ability to control the desktop remotely. Also, unrelated. Teams on Ubuntu (for personal use) kicks me out after 12 hours and I need to sign in again. I don't know why.

Slack said controlling screens was too difficult. I was sad to see them remove it. They do have the ability to draw on other users screen, something I use much more.

> Slack said controlling screens was too difficult

....wait, what?? Teams, Webex, Zoom... Every other teleconference app can do it, so isn't this like admitting they're either not smart or lazy?

I would be totally fine with them removing video altogether and just keeping Huddles, but doing video without the remote control (and their video calls take an eternity to load, wtf?) is real weird

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by randcraw »

First, the Yammer Communities (inside the Teams app) disappeared, but the rest of Teams was unaffected. Then I was able to access the communities through a native Yammer app, but then Yammer objected to my access as being forbidden, it shut me out, and after my second failed login attempt, it locked my account so now I can't access any part of Teams or Yammer.

This was about 9 PM EDT today, outside Philadelphia.

Should I count myself LUCKY?

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by joshxyz »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

I got to a point where I back out on interviews where hr tries to book an interview with ms teams. Jesus christ.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by CSMastermind »

adra wrote: post #42
rayiner wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The project execution is also remarkably bad. In 2020, they set out a multi-phase schedule for renaming the “Planner” app to “Tasks by Planner and Todo” to “Tasks.” https://www.onmsft.com/feature/whats-going-on-with-the-tasks... . It’s been a year and a half and they’re still on the second phase! Even by the low standards of web apps—I just learned about nvm today, WTH?—somehow Teams manages to be outright garbage. M…

Who do you think is left realistically? They're probably in their third or fourth generation of new hires since the heady days of when these applications were originally built. Some may have stayed as manager and a really small group may still Bere there as ICs but I'd be boggled if there's many left. That said, since most of these products are largely in maintenance, it's not like they need a ton of key people to dr…

When I was there about 10 years ago there were still plenty of people left who had worked on core features like tables in Word and pivot tables in Excel.

Granted a decade is a long time and most of them are probably retired at this point but it's pretty reasonable that engineers working on those teams today worked directly with the people who built a lot of the original features for these applications.

So probably closer to something like 2.5 years removed in a lot of cases.

Microsoft, again 10 years ago, had more engineers spending their entire career at the company than I've seen at anywhere else by a fairly large margin. Especially a large tech one (maybe Google is getting there?).

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by mbesto »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #47

Has anyone had a good experience with Microsoft's online products? I tried using Office 365 recently for a small side project after using Google apps for years. Their email has like 5-10 messages come in every day about hotfixes, updates etc. Even after turning everything off, I still get a few emails from them every few days. Missed important emails in all that noise. Outlook randomly decided to delete all my emails…

If you have been historically comfortable with MS Outlook, then O365's email service is far superior in every imaginable possible over GSuite...with ONE big exception of the web interface. But alas, I don't need a web interface for an application I might use 12hrs/day.

Teams/OneDrive is hot garbage.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by smeagull »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

I think they're probably using Azure.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by ryantgtg »

hericium wrote: post #22
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

> Linux client kinda works I had to use it when working for a certain customer. It was chrome/chromium configured for accessing Teams, packed in a single archive/executable, if memory serves. They still managed to fuck it up in a way that after a single app crash, the bundled chromium was unable to connect to Microsoft services anymore (made no outgoing connections iirc). Fresh copy worked after spinning up a live sy…

I tried it the other day and screensharing didn’t work on the linux client. However, turns out there is a Teams website that seems to have all the same functionality as the client (at least the same stuff I use) and screensharing worked through that.

Re: Microsoft Teams down for thousands of users

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Post by solardev »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #2

It's hard to understand why Teams is so bad. They have all these engineers, and it's not like it's difficult to make a chat program. Teleconferencing, sure, that's difficult. But most of the problems I hear about is "Teams crashed" or "Wouldn't connect" or "Makes my machine run unbearably slow". How do you end up with such a crap app? And why is the interface so terrible? Can't they afford UX people? And why are ther…

It's Microsoft...
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