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EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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To my understanding, the EU cookie law has mostly been met with malicious compliance; now I get a pop-up window on nearly every web page I visit asking me if I'm happy to accept their tracking cookies. Does anyone have thoughts on how big tech might comply to this new digital markets act maliciously?

The GDPR outcome was largely good though. I can download my data from way more websites than I could before

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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That's fine, just stay on the default settings then. This however isn't a reason for the rest of the world to accept this. And since the power in the market is highly concentrated and all of it is moving more and more in this direction, regulation enforces these alternative options now. All this does is regulate the power the provider of a product has over their customer. This does not ruin the walled garden for the…

That's fine, just stay on the default settings then. I agree in principle, but I worry that we end up in the situation where if you need to use a particular app, you can only get it from a third-party store that you don't trust. (Something gross like Facebook starting an app store.) Or course, this is mostly a result of Apple being greedy. If they had acted like a good steward of the platform rather than trying to ex…

Apple could make a greater incentive to use their approval

Competition

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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post #512

One would think that if there is truly a Europe wide market for such an unlocked device a competitor should be able to challenge Apple and Google dominance. Europe could even subsidize it. But instead, it’s more engineering by bureaucrats. Why is Europe so afraid of competing in the open market?

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What a great hot take on a whole continent...

Oh well, carry on, it's just sad to have to read this kind of bullshit on HN.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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To all the folks that worry that Apple won't any longer be able to police Facebook: We can regulate that too. We can some really draconian rules wrt. what can and can not be collected etc. See, with a working governing body, the people wins. GDPR is great. USA don't have it, we do. Regulation works here. (Not always, not enough, it have unintended side effects and all that. But letting the big tech guys run the world…

> GDPR is great.

not at all from my experience. it’s been extremely frustrating so far.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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> Use existing hardware and software features without competitive prejudice. E.g. NFC What this will mean for me as an iPhone user: instead of using Apple Pay which is seamlessly integrated in my phone, watch and desktop OS, I will instead have to use my bank's terrible HTML-based 'app' to perform contactless payments, making it 100 times less convenient. This probably will make me switch back to using my bank card.…

If that's such an important issue for you, why don't you just switch to a bank with an app with good UX? There are so many banks out there, one will surely either support Apple Pay or have a decent app. Apple Pay will not just die, Android has no restrictions on NFC and Google Pay is still supported by banks. What you do is fear mongering that's not based on reality. Android shows that it works and Apple just wants t…

So use Android? I don't get the reason to force all companies to be the same when customers clearly have preferences.

I've bought mostly Apple products because I prefer their system to Androids. People who disagree can buy something else.

Competition is better than these father knows best overarching regulations.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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post #218

Oh please spare me this crap. This isn't true at all. I knew this was bs before switching to iphone but I was optimistic. Apple AirPlay is just pure trash, so I have to use chromecast. My Apple watch keeps bugging out and notifying me few minutes late and requires restart of both devices. The device keeps connecting to open networks while my remembered home network is available. The camera lens has issues with glare…

Please don't call names or post in the flamewar style to HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. You can make your substantive points without that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166399.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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post #218

Oh please spare me this crap. This isn't true at all. I knew this was bs before switching to iphone but I was optimistic. Apple AirPlay is just pure trash, so I have to use chromecast. My Apple watch keeps bugging out and notifying me few minutes late and requires restart of both devices. The device keeps connecting to open networks while my remembered home network is available. The camera lens has issues with glare…

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Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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I actually provided some cons, unlike OP.

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Personal attacks will get you banned here, so please don't post like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

> Install any software > Install any App Store and choose to make it default I wonder if, just like in Android, this will open the doors for a lot of malware targeting iOS users.

What malware? I've been using Android for over 10 years now. I've never had an issue personally. But I consider myself tech savvy and I don't install apps from untrusted sources. Also, iOS had multiple 0-days in the past. So you don't need to give users freedom over their paid for devices for them to be compromised.
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