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Re: Gitlab and remote work

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Still paying according to location for the same work?

You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

Because you're paying me for my skills and expertise, not for where I live.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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Still paying according to location for the same work?

You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

The cost of most commodities varies by location. This includes Coke. It is called price discrimination.

The whole reason DVDs had regions was to price the same DVD differently based on location. As long as companies can, they will price and pay different amounts for the same thing based on local factors.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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Isn't that Capitalism 101 ? If employees are happy, company is happy, why does it matter ? Why should a company worry about pleasing everyone who is not necessarily part of them. If someone likes what Gitlab does, applies there and gets the salary they want, what's the issue ? If they don't like Gitlab's offer because someone else in a HCOL area may get more, you are essentially comparing with someone else. Not a goo…

It's because talking about your salary is so widely taboo that you may think your rate of $40k salary is good because it's comfortable in your area, but most chances are you don't realize that your co-worker who has the same skill level and workload is getting paid $80k and that's a good way to piss off your employees. Pay for skills not for cost of living. You hire someone for what they can bring to the table not ho…

I have no opinion to express on adjusting pay for area of residence, but note that Gitlab's salaries appear to be unusually exceptionally transparent, so your story of taboos about discussing salary and secrecy of colleague's salaries probably does not apply to them.

https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation...

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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The comparation is great: https://about.gitlab.com/company/culture/all-remote/all-remo...

Although it is comparing with a thing they basically say "we define it as not having these benefits". I know companies I would define as "hybrid" were not all those negatives apply.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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post #49

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For engineering/product etc. that's the case. Doesn't matter if you move from San Francisco to Thailand or some other low cost of living area, your pay remains the same.

Not cutting someone's pay when they move is very different to hiring someone in Thailand on a Bay Area salary.

Why? If both do the same work in the same location, why would one get more than the other.

Either you don't adjust the pay when they move because you are already paying everyone an equal salary. Or you adjust it and pay everyone a local salary.

Gitlab does the latter.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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post #59
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Still paying according to location for the same work?

What I don't get is: why would they pay more for someone from San Francisco? I'd expect the incentive to be to indeed pay the same for the same work, but that pay would be the lowest they can get away with. (i.e. I wouldn't expect that to lead to Silicon Valley salaries all over the world.) Unless it's not actually the same work, and location affects work. It does at least affect gross pay in any case, I suppose.

> why would they pay more for someone from San Francisco?

Because they probably want someone from the area working in the company. If they pay a flat rate globally, they only have to pay average or lower and get great people in LCOL areas. But then you have a company with no people in CA or NY, which means you dont have contact with local trends or contacts in the big tech companies.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

Because you're paying me for my skills and expertise, not for where I live.

This is likely correct in the long run and it means software engineering compensation will be dropping significantly in the next decade.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

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Yes, but that is not a company that should be praised as world leader in remote work. How do you expect to ever raise the standard of living in poor countries if you exploit their labor for pennies on the dollar. No different from apple and other who move manufacturing to cheap labor. A real leader in remote work would try to be a part of the solution, not actively fight against it.

Just because a company may not pay salaries compared to say Bay Area, doesn't mean they are not paying great salary for your location. It is a stretch to say that they are exploiting labor for pennies if they are paying a good market rate salary for the area they are hiring in.

Ah, so exactly the same model like the sweatshops in Asia. Pay just good enough that they can't afford to not do the job. Very generous.
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