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DALL·E now available in beta

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Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by [deleted] »

nsxwolf wrote: post #234
peteforde wrote: post #228

I have been having a blast with DALL-E, spending about an hour a day trying out wild combinations and cracking my friends up. I cannot imagine getting bored of it; it's like getting bored with visual stimulus, or art in general. In fact, I've been glad to have a 50/day limit, because it helps me contain my hyperfocus instincts. The information about new pricing is, to me as someone just enjoying making crazy imagines…

I'm already bored of it. When you have everything, you have nothing.

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Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by zanderwohl »

ausbah wrote: post #283
danielvaughn wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the novelty wears off. But I'm already coming up with several applications for it. On the personal side, I've been getting into game development, but the biggest roadblock is creating concept art. I'm an artist but it takes a huge amount of time to get the ideas on paper. Using DALLE will be a massive benefit and will let me expedite that process. It's important to note that this is not replacing my entire c…

>I'm an artist but it takes a huge amount of time to get the ideas on paper. this is what I really like about DALLE-mini, it's ability to create pretty good basic outlines for a scene. it's low resolution enough that there's room for your own creativity while giving you a good template to spring off from. things like poses, composition of multiple people, etc.

I've used AI to try out different composition/layout possibilities. Sometimes it comes up with an arrangement of objects I hadn't considered. Sometimes it uses colors in really interesting ways. Great jumping-off point for drafting.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by skybrian »

berberous wrote: post #20
brycethornton wrote: post #3

I'm blown away by this: "Starting today, users get full usage rights to commercialize the images they create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise. This includes images they generated during the research preview." I assumed this was going to be the sticking point for wider usage for a long time. They're now saying that you have full rights to sell Dall-E 2 creations?

I think they are reacting to competition. MidJourney is amazing, was easier to get into, gives you commercial rights, and frankly I found more fun to use and even better output in most instances.

Don't they both give you commercial rights now?

I have access to both and they're good for different things. DALL-E seems somewhat more likely to know what you mean. Midjourney seems better for making interesting fantasy and science fiction environments.

For comparison, I tried generating images of accordions. Midjourney doesn't really understand that an accordion has a bellows [1]. DALL-E manages to get the right shape much of the time, if you don't look too closely: [2], [3]. Neither of them knows the difference between piano and button accordions.

Neither of them can draw a piano keyboard accurately, but DALL-E is closer if you don't look too hard. (The black notes aren't in alternating groups of two and three.)

Neither of them understands text; text on a sign will be garbled. Google's Parti project can do this [4], but it's not available to the public.

I expect DALL-E will have many people sign up for occasional usage, because if you don't use it for a few months, the free credits will build up. But Midjourney's pricing seems better if you use it every day?

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Accordion/comments/uuwrbj/midjourne...

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Accordion/comments/vz9zxw/dalle_sor...

[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/Accordion/comments/w0677q/accordion...

[4] https://parti.research.google/

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by zanderwohl »

tiborsaas wrote: post #261
bemmu wrote: post #58

I was supposed to be making a video game, but got a bit sidetracked when DALL·E came out and made this website on the side: http://dailywrong.com/ (yes I should get SSL). It's like The Onion, but all the articles are made with GPT-3 and DALL·E. I start with an interesting DALL·E image, then describe it to GPT-3 and ask it for an Onion-like article on the topic. The results are surprisingly good.

Thanks, finally a legit news publication :) This was really funny :) http://dailywrong.com/man-finally-comfortable-just-holding-a...

Somehow these articles are more readable than typical AI-generated search engine fodder... Is it because I'm entering the site with an expectation of nonsense?

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by vanillaicesquad »

scarmig wrote: post #126
mikeyouse wrote: post #49

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This precise thing is causing a funny problem in specialty areas. People are using e.g. Google Lens to identify plants, birds and insects, which sometimes returns wrong answers e.g. say it sees a picture of a Summer Tanager and calls it a Cardinal. If the people then post "Saw this Cardinal" and the model picks up that picture/post and incorporates it into its training set, it's just reinforcing the wrong identificat…

That's not really a new problem, though. At one point someone got some bad training data about an old Incan town, the misidentification spread, and nowadays we train new human models to call it Macchu Picchu.

The difference between the name of an old Incan town and a modern time plant identification mistake is that maybe the plant is poisonous.

Made with gpt3

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by isoprophlex »

Wait until someone trains a model like this, for porn.

There seems to be a post-DALLE obscenity detector on openAI's tool, as so far I've found it to be entirely robust against deliberate typos designed to avoid simple 'bad word lists'. Ask it for a "pruple violon" and you get purple violins... you get the deal.

"Metastable" prompts that may or may not generate obscene (content with nudity, guns, violence as I've found) results sometimes shown non-obscene generations, and sometimes trigger a warning.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by zanderwohl »

pshc wrote: post #155
FrenchDevRemote wrote: post #56

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You can't use humans to manually refine a dataset on the scale of GPT-3 or DALL-E Clip was trained on 400,000,000 images, GPT is roughly 180B tokens, at 1-2 tokens per word, that's 120,000,000,000 words.

At least cleaning it up is an embarrassingly parallel problem, so if you had the resources to throw incentives at millions of casual gamers, you might make a nice dent on Clip.

Alternatively, making a captcha where half the data is unlabeled, and half is labeled, forcing users to categorize data for you as they log into accounts.

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Post by throwuxiytayq »

tptacek wrote: post #280
throwuxiytayq wrote: post #250

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Obviously, it's polluted. Undisputably. In a mathematical sense, an extra (black box) transformation is performed on the input to the model. In a practical sense (eg. if you're researching the model), this is like having dirty laboratory tools - all measurements are slightly off. The presumption by OpenAI is that the measurements are off in the correct way . I'm interested in using Dall-E commercially, but I think so…

It's a fucking AI picture generator. The whole thing is a series of (literally) inscrutable black boxes. This is not a good argument.

Yeah man, but literally the entire point of this AI picture generator is that it's, like, super accurate at rendering the prompt, and stuff.

I don't understand the relevance of the black box's scrutability - I just want to play with the black box. I am interested in increasing my understanding of the black box, not of a trust-me-it's-great-our-intern-steve-made-it black box derivative.

Re: DALL·E now available in beta

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Post by harpersealtako »

napier wrote: post #282
harpersealtako wrote: post #267

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Dalle seems to only have a few "styles" of drawing that it is actually "good" at. It is particularly strong at these styles but disappointingly underwhelming at anything else, and will actively fight you and morph your prompt into one of these styles even when given an inpainting example of exactly what you want. It's great at photorealistic images like this: https://labs.openai.com/s/0MFuSC1AsZcwaafD3r0nuJTT , but i…

GPT3 has seen similar lobotomization since its initial closed beta. Current davinci outputs tend to be quite reserved and bland, whereas when I first had the fortunate opportunity to experience playing with it in mid 2020, if often felt like tapping into a friendly genius with access to unlimited pattern recognition and boundless knowledge.

I've absolutely noticed that. I used to pay for GPT-3 access through AI Dungeon back in 2020, before it got censored and run into the ground. In the AI fiction community we call that "Summer Dragon" ("Dragon" was the name of the AI dungeon model that used 175B GPT-3), and we consider it the gold standard of creativity and knowledge that hasn't been matched yet even 2 years later. It had this brilliant quality to it where it almost seemed to be able to pick up on your unconscious expectations of what you wanted it to write, based purely on your word choice in the prompt. We've noticed that since around Fall 2020 the quality of the outputs has slowly degraded with every wave of corporate censorship and "bias reduction". Using GPT-3 playground (or story writing services like Sudowrite which use Davinci) it's plainly obvious how bad it's gotten.

OpenAI needs to open their damn eyes and realize that a brilliant AI with provocative, biased outputs is better than a lobotomized AI that can only generate advertiser-friendly content.

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Post by tiagod »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #33
skilled wrote: post #27

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I wonder if they have plans to allow SVG exports in the future. I mean, the file size would probably be ridiculous in a lot of the cases, but for my use case I wouldn't mind it. And sucks about the watermark, maybe they will introduce an option to pay for removing it.

SVG exports would only be meaningful if the model is generating vector images, which are then converted to bitmaps. I highly doubt that's the case, but perhaps someone who has actually looked at the model structure can confirm?

It's just pixels. You can pass them into a tracer
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