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Gitlab and remote work

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Re: Gitlab and remote work

#21
post #2

Still paying according to location for the same work?

You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different?

Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#22
post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing is wrong with it. Just don't call yourself a world leader.

Who would you consider to be operationally and culturally superior in regards to remote work than Gitlab? Asking sincerely, because Gitlab is one of the first brands I think of when people mention "remote first culture".

Kraken has a few thousand employees, has been a remote first company for a decade, and pays the same no matter where you live.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#23
post #2

Still paying according to location for the same work?

You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

Well, it is great way to make talent in HoCL areas get priced out of the market, should the market reach a point where there's enough talent in LoCL willing to work for lower rates. Theoretically, anyway.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#25
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing is wrong with it. Just don't call yourself a world leader.

It's in your own personal definition of remote work that people should be paid an universal salary. Gitlab might not be a world leader in salaries, but they might very well be a world leader in providing the best remote work environment to their employees.

can it really be "best" if you're treated unequally just because live somewhere different?

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#26
post #7
post #2

Still paying according to location for the same work?

What's the problem with that? If Gitlab is not paying top of the market salaries, then they're just going to miss out on top talent, and clearly they're fine with it. It's a free market after all, you don't have to join Gitlab.

From what I've seen the usual points of critique were/are:

* "This person does the exact same work, obviously they need to be paid 30% more than you because they could afford to move close to an expensive city before applying" doesn't sound exactly fair

* "We'll value your work less financially if you move somewhere cheaper (not the other way around though)" isn't particularly great

* The message(s) of "You can work from everywhere, people can move back to rural places and reverse demographic drain from there, you can be close to nature, ..." seem a bit hollow when paired with "oh, and if you actually do any of those great things we'll cut your salary"

* At least when it was public, their salary calculator had some hilarious blind spots (one would hope they have a better process when it actually comes down to it)

For the other perspective, they've written about why they do it: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation..., https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2019/02/28/why-we-pay-local-ra...

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#27
post #19

Their pay was abysmally low last time I applied. The company seems cool but the salaries as a senior were honestly kind of silly in this market.

Then you missed the biggest advantage of remote only: they can hire from any market.

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#28
post #2

Still paying according to location for the same work?

You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

Because physical goods are subject to differently priced logistics and local ingridients and remote work is not? Seriously, how can you even compare?

Re: Gitlab and remote work

#30
post #2

Still paying according to location for the same work?

You pay according to location for the same bottle of Coke? How is work pay different? Why shouldn't payment for work be tied to local price ranges and cost of living?

GitLab doesn't charge based on the location of their customers.
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