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Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by tpush »

hutzlibu wrote: post #316
corobo wrote: post #239

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Looks like that might be retired going by https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251184844 > Customers are no longer able to remove the album on their own. You will need to reach out to Apple Support directly to have the album removed

I guess this is the essence, of why I never wanted an apple device. And I bookmark this comment, in case I forget .. I would need to ask my apple masters, if they please remove U2 from my device? No thank you.

You can remove the album from your device just fine; This is about removing it from your account, which is contingent on the provider you have the account with no matter what company you're dealing with.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by kypro »

Really? This isn't my experience. I use several BT devices regularly and they all work fine. The only time I run into issues is when using shared devices. For example, both me and my girlfriend share a car and when we get in the car together one of our phones will automatically connect which often means one of us will need to manually disconnect and reconnect if the wrong device pairs first. I'm not sure this is a flaw with BT so much though, or at least it's a bit of an edge case and could probably be addressed with a better implementation.

The one technology that I still find unreasonably painful after decades of development is inkjet printers. I have no idea why it's still so difficult to reliably connect a printer to a device. To reliably print a document without random blank pages or weird margin issues. For the printer not to require cleaning and alignment with every use. And for the printer to do anything within a reasonable timeframe - sometimes it takes several minutes after clicking print for the printer to actually start printing anything.

Bluetooth in comparison is really good.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by bigbillheck »

ralfd wrote: post #280
bigbillheck wrote: post #78

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They most certainly were not: https://www.engadget.com/2009-06-29-nokia-apple-rim-and-othe...

Thankfully that EU initiative failed. They wanted the industry to adopt micro-usb as the standard, which would have sucked and would be worse than the situation today

Is the situation today not 'everything is micro-usb, usb-c, or apple'?

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by tpush »

kortex wrote: post #244
dingleberry420 wrote: post #235

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I don't think it's intended to be homophobic. The album art is just really cringey. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Innocence_(U2_album...

What's 'cringey' about it?

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by themaninthedark »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #272
themaninthedark wrote: post #226

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Yeah that sucks. I graduated collage in 2008 and I refused to get a phone before that point. The amount of people complaining how it is inconvenient that they have to call your room phone instead of texting, how they can't make plans(in reality, it is a crutch for lack of planning), etc. For a while, it was the same with Facebook.

If it may be a helpful perspective - I don't care if I phone one's room phone or cell phone; but texting/messaging is a completely different mode of communication than a phone call to begin with. Texting, like messaging and email, are async whereas phone is sync. For 99% of my communication, I don't need to talk to somebody right now (and they don't need to talk to me right now :). I don't care if other party has a c…

Not that I don't understand the difference between the communication modes, mostly just empathizing with the parent.

Personally I hate text because most people will reply with one or 2 word answers and it takes much longer to get a decision vs a minute phone call.

In collage my reasoning was purely financial and this was the beginning of the mass adoption wave. I can only guess that the pressure to conform is so much greater and the scorn/ridicule for not is as well.

I also wonder if we will see a counter wave similar to the "I don't watch TV" that happened. Phones are great but they are also insediously great time wasters.

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Post by wincy »

wil421 wrote: post #351
ricardobayes wrote: post #166

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I sometimes wonder what the world would be like without FAANG. I'm lead to believe the world would be a better place if all companies would have a max company size of Bose, or Sennheiser. Then no stupid decisions could be pushed through by force, like the removal of the 3.5 mm jack. If the market really wants it, they will eventually vote with their wallet. Same goes with social media, fb killed off local country-spe…

3.5mm can go to hell for a phone. I’d prefer the waterproofing we have with iPhones nowadays. If you need an adapter they are available.

Is there? Last time I checked there doesn’t seem to be a dongle that both outputs and charges my iPhone in the car. Or the non Apple ones have terrible reviews that they set off the persons coffee maker scalding the persons dog or something.

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Post by swamp40 »

blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

The iPhone forces Apple Music to self-start if nothing else is using the speaker when you auto-connect with a car Bluetooth system.

Kind of like how Windows 10 forces you to use Microsoft Edge as a pdf viewer no matter how many times you switch to Adobe or how many settings you change.

Apple doesn't want you to forget about Apple Music.

> auto-magically restores itself somehow iCloud. Apple Music needs something to play.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by JohnBooty »

HPsquared wrote: post #238
NikolaNovak wrote: post #190

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A 25 dollar logitech wired headset with a boom is brilliant. I have people with $200+ airpods on the call and I hear their cat dog air conditioner wind spouse keyboard car and everything. But they cannot be told this - they have expensive earbuds and they can hear ME fine, so it's all great!

Boom mic is always the superior choice.

In an absolute sound quality sense, yes.

But they also pick up peoples' gross mouth noises. You hear them chewing food, wheezing when they have a cold, or even eating food in waaaaay too much detail.

Obviously mute buttons exist but... I've had multiple remote coworkers with boom mics and even if they rememeber to mute 90% of the time over the course of a year that other 10% really adds up lol

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Post by smoldesu »

incongruity wrote: post #410
Larrikin wrote: post #390

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Sony solved open headphone jack while being water proof nearly a decade ago. The idea the phone can't have a headphone jack and be waterproof was a lie pushed by Apple to save money on not having to put in a headphone jack. I've been using Sony phones in the shower and at the beach for years now and only briefly switched to a different company when they tried to pull that headphone jack removal of crap briefly when I…

My understanding was that it’s always been about the physical size and the impact it has on the stack-up of iPhone components. Looking at a standard mini-jack vs. my iPhone 13, the connector itself is close to 40% of the thickness of the phone. Add the additional size for the jack’s structure and you quickly get to a point where the phone has to be thicker. Now, has Apple gotten too obsessive about thin phones? Maybe…

If that is the case, I have a hard time believing it's still true on any model past iPhone X. There's plenty of space to fit a 3.5mm jack in there, I would happily trade any/all of the FaceID hardware or Lidar components for a headphone connector.
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