Hopefully this goes better than GDPR. The only outcome I’ve seen is all my friends and family clicking “I accept” to explicitly allow tracking.
Remember how we were praising GDPR and the level of fines etc…
EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved
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#173What's the plan for enforcing it? Did the United States sign off on it? In my opinion they need the US buy-in, and there actually need to be criminal penalties enforced against top executives (jail time) and the other executives need to see it happen. Unless they do that stuff it seems like they may really try to ignore and delay and do the absolute minimum effort.
considering the status of both companies as basically a duopoly, it will be hard for the US to object about unfair trade rules.
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#174I'm sort of surprised at the positive tone here. Sure, it's nice for non-technical people to enumerate a lot of nice to haves, but just asserting something doesn't make it true or possible. As one example, making "core messaging functionality interoperable". How exactly does that work with end-to-end encryption? I suppose we'd need some sort of open system and protocol for all the tricky key sharing stuff? That would…
You can easily warn a user that messaging a user using a different protocol will not be encrypted.
On the iPhone, this is done visually with the blue/green bubbles. But other solutions can be implemented.
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#175So, if tech companies don't extend these changes to customers in the USA, could I buy an unlocked smartphone in Europe and for use in the USA?
Not necessarily, most software uses is based on where you are based.
On iOS your account is tied to your billing address (which is soooo annoying).
This is done to follow local laws, and where an app publisher wants to sell.
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I think that's completely unrealistic. It's not going to happen even if they open the platform up.
If the platform becomes open enough so we can side-load applications, I bet you 100EUR we'll be able to develop iPhone applications from any operating system, but first Linux, within a year :)
The only thing you 100% need osx for is the signature / certificates crap.
You can build most of an iOS app today on Linux (eg. some game frameworks, qt)
Eg: https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/development/compiling...
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#178It blows my mind how many people have bought into Apple's position on this. No, Apple restricting your freedom does not afford you greater security. You, as an adult, can choose not to install shady software. If you're not confident in your ability to tell shady from legit, just stick to the App Store. Don't demand that Apple treat the rest of us like children just because that's how you would like to be treated.
>You, as an adult, can choose not to install shady software.
For some reason every Linux user assumes everyone is as smart as they are and anyone who doesn't take the time to learn whatever esoteric config file to manage their DE is a child that can't tell left from right. Somehow the decade of directed scams and proliferation of malware and spyware isn't a problem and it's the developers "right" to be able to turn on your microphone and send that data to the cloud.
When Facebook mandates that to install Instagram you must sideload it from the Facebook store and your entire's family's location is being tracked 24/7 I hope you will thank Zuckerberg for all the freedom hes giving you
>Don't demand that Apple treat the rest of us like children just because that's how you would like to be treated.
You could just not buy from Apple. I never understand how the anti-Apple crowd is convinced that Apple is run by Satan himself, but cannot compel themselves from buying Apple products.
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#179So, if tech companies don't extend these changes to customers in the USA, could I buy an unlocked smartphone in Europe and for use in the USA?
I would expect this would also go in effect on existing iPhones, so it seems more likely that you'd need a European Apple ID/account.
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See. It is frankly pointless. Chrome already has a significant amount of mindshare and will grow even more after this. The users have already chosen Chrome (and its derivatives). Mozilla has done absolutely nothing to stop it as Firefox has become totally irrelevant today. The EU is about to allow the world domination of Chrome and its derivatives to takeover entirely. Just like the many choices of a Linux distro, yo…
Mozilla self-sabotages so frequently and severely, I think you need to be very naive to not suspect the massive amount of funding they get from Google has something to do with it.
I'd believe this if that same money wasn't required to keep the lights on. Easier to just stop paying it and wait for them to run out of runway.