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Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by dmix »

hellweaver666 wrote: post #196
criddell wrote: post #177

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I think the blame has to lie with Lexus. My current phone is an iPhone and my previous phone was a Pixel and both work perfectly in my Subaru, although the head unit was replaced 3 times because it was triggering some type of SOS signal to Subaru. Frankly, I've had fewer BT issues with my iPhone than I had with my Android phone, but the Android was from three years ago and I think things have probably improved since…

I haven't driven for a few years but my iPhone 4 always used to connect and work with my Peugeot 307 perfectly.

Everyone in this thread who is complaining has either a Lexus or a Toyota (who owns Lexus) so it’s obviously a problem with some version of their infotainment system. The U2 thing was obviously an Apple issue.

Not sure why they don’t use CarPlay but maybe some people prefer Bluetooth.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by Loughla »

klyrs wrote: post #250
blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

My girlfriend's phone automatically resumes in the middle of a podcast. Same spot, same podcast, every time. I had no idea how lucky we are.

Right? I thought it was annoying that No Such Thing as a Fish kicked on into the exact same spot every time I went for a drive. But that's a million times better than anything by U2 or whatever Songs of Innocence is.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by criddell »

dmix wrote: post #261
hellweaver666 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't driven for a few years but my iPhone 4 always used to connect and work with my Peugeot 307 perfectly.

Everyone in this thread who is complaining has either a Lexus or a Toyota (who owns Lexus) so it’s obviously a problem with some version of their infotainment system. The U2 thing was obviously an Apple issue. Not sure why they don’t use CarPlay but maybe some people prefer Bluetooth.

I think CarPlay (both wired and wireless versions) requires Bluetooth.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by EUROCARE »

rvnx wrote: post #94
EUROCARE wrote: post #80

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Well, fortunately these are not the only companies in the world. I have always had only great experience with Sony and Samsung Bluetooth devices (phones, headsets, other hardware).

I'm curious if you found a way to connect a Sony Bluetooth headset to a Mac and have both audio playing and microphone active, basically have a conversation. If you know please share, I never got such functioning, always either I can play audio, or I can record audio, but never both at the same time.

Yeah, I have Sony WH1000-XM2 and XM5 and both work perfectly for Zoom and other video calls with my MacBook Air (M1) as well as my MacBook Pro (Intel 2019), I'm using it daily for work. Zero configuration, just pair and go. Sorry I can't help you with setting it up but I really didn't have to do anything, it worked immediately all by itself.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by vbezhenar »

GoToRO wrote: post #193
blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

I also had similar problems with iPhone and BT. Before it worked very good with an Android. What I've learned over time is that apple seems ti sabotage anything that is not apple. I had connection problems with my car, with my Sony BT headphones, with portable speaker. Alk that went away as I switched back to android.

I guess you're right. My bluetooth experience is Macbook, iPhone, Apple keyboard, Apple mouse and Apple headphones. Everything works extremely well. The thing that I like most is power indicator integrated with iOS and macOS. Allows me to charge those things before they run out of power. As long as you stay in the garden, things are smooth.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by LetsGetTechnicl »

blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

I have a Honda and if I plug my iPhone into it's USB port it will auto-play the first song in my Apple Music/iTunes library which for a long time was "A-YO" by Lady Gaga. The opening lyric of "heeerreee we gooo" was amusing and appropriate for a while until it got incredibly annoying once I switched to Spotify.

I think the issue lies somewhere between Honda's implementation of the iPod standard and some weird backwards compatibility the iPhone is providing. When in this "iPod-like" mode I lost functionality like queuing songs via the Play Next option. It just disappeared from the long-press menu on songs.

Anyways I just bought a Bluetooth adapter from Amazon and plugged that into the aux input. Waaaay better

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Post by dmix »

Koshkin wrote: post #253
oblio wrote: post #117

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I bought a wireless HP printer. Besides the fact that I never printed anything from my phone. It literally required reinstallation (not restart!) to print again, every time, on Windows. It needed an HP account to be able to scan. Locally. I just chucked it out and got a USB Brother.

> It needed an HP account to be able to scan. You can use Windows apps to do the scanning without creating an HP account.

Yeah my mom has HP wireless printers and I always uninstalled the HP software and it works every time without having to install anything else.

Maybe because I’m used to the MacOS world but that should be the default first thing you try is do nothing and let the OS handle it.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by rootusrootus »

GoToRO wrote: post #193
blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

I also had similar problems with iPhone and BT. Before it worked very good with an Android. What I've learned over time is that apple seems ti sabotage anything that is not apple. I had connection problems with my car, with my Sony BT headphones, with portable speaker. Alk that went away as I switched back to android.

It is kinda funny, it was this behavior among others that made me switch from android to an iphone. I got so tired of BT shenanigans.

I do feel sympathy for the people still having trouble, but mine has been flawless. I do not, however, drive a Lexus.

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Post by rvnx »

EUROCARE wrote: post #264
rvnx wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious if you found a way to connect a Sony Bluetooth headset to a Mac and have both audio playing and microphone active, basically have a conversation. If you know please share, I never got such functioning, always either I can play audio, or I can record audio, but never both at the same time.

Yeah, I have Sony WH1000-XM2 and XM5 and both work perfectly for Zoom and other video calls with my MacBook Air (M1) as well as my MacBook Pro (Intel 2019), I'm using it daily for work. Zero configuration, just pair and go. Sorry I can't help you with setting it up but I really didn't have to do anything, it worked immediately all by itself.

Thank you, I have the XM3 so somehow now I know that it's possible.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by dmix »

criddell wrote: post #263
dmix wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone in this thread who is complaining has either a Lexus or a Toyota (who owns Lexus) so it’s obviously a problem with some version of their infotainment system. The U2 thing was obviously an Apple issue. Not sure why they don’t use CarPlay but maybe some people prefer Bluetooth.

I think CarPlay (both wired and wireless versions) requires Bluetooth.

I’ve never used a wireless version of CarPlay, I always plugged it in which worked reliably in every modern budget car I’ve rented (Toyota included).
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