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EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

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Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Then just keep using the Apple store and Apple pay.

That's great until someone has an app I need and chooses to only make it available on a different store. I'm not legally trained, so I hope they've thought of this and also have rules for these 3rd party app stores.

> That's great until someone has an app I need and chooses to only make it available on a different store.

Fair point. The company I work for would 100% now require you to do that If you want to use our software, to make it easier to comply with Qt LGPLv3.

> I'm not legally trained, so I hope they've thought of this and also have rules for these 3rd party app stores.

Isn't the idea here that you do not need an app store to require external software?

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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post #61

This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

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Nonsense. You can't fight spam, criminal or hackers by restricting your ecosystem. Such measures only enable monopolies like Apple to make money at the expense of the consumer or competitors.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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So when I attempt to install the Amazon play store on my iPhone, will I get the following scary message? "WARNING: You are about to install non-approved software which may be malicious or a virus. If this software causes damage to your iPhone we will not fix your device, even if it is still under warranty. Are you really sure you want to continue?"

I presume so. Does the EU ruling require companies to offer warranties for damage caused by users installing malicious software?

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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> Use a spyware voice assistant. You already have Siri for that. All voice assistants are spyware.

> All voice assistants are spyware.

If anything, only cloud void assistants.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

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The concept of "ecosystem" is anti-consumer and anti-progress. Ecosystems exist to protect monopolies like Apple from competition.

Also if Apple is so secure, why is there a celebrity iCloud hack almost every other day?

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

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Even if you choose to stick to only Apple's in-house services, you'll benefit from this regulation. Apple will be forced to compete on a level playing field with challengers, which will force them to lower their App Store fees to a reasonable level.

The only people who should be concerned are those over-exposed to Apple stock, but they're not getting any sympathy from me.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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I'm conflicted about the app stores. On the one hand, a non-modifiable single point of sale tied to the OS, with rules to prevent private data (and private API) access, is good and reduces data risks to me personally and society as a whole.

On the other hand, I'm not an American, I don't live or work in America, and the users of my five most recent published apps have not been in the USA, so I've never been happy about the US federal government having any say at all about my use of encryption.

Plus my cultural norms are not those of the USA, so I'm comfortable with content Apple block outright and uncomfortable with stuff Apple lets though without any (apparent to me) concern.

The other stuff all appears straightforwardly good.

I wonder what this will mean for licensing/fees for future releases of Xcode, Swift, iOS etc.?

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