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EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by nailer »

Gareth321 wrote: post #2

This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

> Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default

Cool. I have an iPhone but everything in my house uses Alexa. It would be great to have my phone control my using using ‘Alexa’ as a wake word.

It will also be nice to have a real Brave or Opera or whatever (with Blink not WebKit) on my iPhone.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by Gareth321 »

chaoz_ wrote: post #5
Gareth321 wrote: post #2

This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

Huge. What if Apple claims implementing required feature X will take more than 6 months? I could see it happening given that planning has already happened and new func will need to be smoothly introduced into UX etc.

There doesn't appear to be much of a provision for technical delays. Six months is what it appears legislators believe is reasonable and fair, given the enormous resources at the disposal of these companies. Bear in mind that this legislation has been in deliberation since 15 December 2020. It would have been prudent for Gatekeepers to be making strategic product choices - and likely prototype builds - which comply with this outcome; at least for the EU.

Nonetheless, I anticipate teething problems, including some form of malicious compliance. The latter of which the EU tends to take a dim view.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

mehdix wrote: post #3
Gareth321 wrote: post #2

This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

Is this potentially breaking apple's walled garden? I wonder wether they will comply at all. Besides, I'm glad to see interoperability mentioned there, perhaps one day we could text from one messenger to another one without being held back by the owner.

> I wonder wether they will comply at all.

Of course they will try not to. They will do everything to prolong the appeal process and so on - it's unthinkable they would allow any other app store on their devices, that's the very core of their identity - to be as closed and unified as possible. I don't believe the EU has enough power to fight Apple. I'll believe it when I see the first iPhone with an USB-C charger.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by rvschuilenburg »

Gareth321 wrote: post #2

This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

This almost sounds too good to be true. What are the odds of this being watered down, or being delayed into eternity?

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by Gareth321 »

tnzk wrote: post #9

> After being signed by the President of the European Parliament and the President of the Council, it will be published in the Official Journal of the European Union and will start to apply six months later. So will start by next mid-Jan? I thought this would take a years or two to materialize.

Adoption will occur in September, so my reading is that Gatekeepers need to comply by March 2023.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by exabrial »

These regulations are precisely targeted to harm these monopolies, but ultimately they will also harm the small players trying to get into the market because of the huge compliance risk. So it is a double edged sword as we’ve seen this play out before.

The solution is to prevent monopolies forming in the first place and break them up quickly. And God sakes, stop approving mega mergers (facebook and Instagram? Lol. Google and YouTube? Double lol)

Despite this, I’m happy to see some action, but I’d rather set direct action against breaking them up.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by Oarch »

ls15 wrote: post #8
chaoz_ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huge. What if Apple claims implementing required feature X will take more than 6 months? I could see it happening given that planning has already happened and new func will need to be smoothly introduced into UX etc.

> What if Apple claims implementing required feature X will take more than 6 months? Then that will increase the implementation cost by at least (edit: up to ) 10% of their global revenue.

Up to 10%*

Assuming they won't go with the maximum amount early on.

Re: EU Digital Markets Act, aimed at Google, Apple, Amazon, approved

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Post by Gareth321 »

rvschuilenburg wrote: post #16
Gareth321 wrote: post #2

This is easily one of the most expansive Acts regarding computing devices passed in my lifetime. The summary is in the link. As an iPhone user, this will enable me to: * Install any software * Install any App Store and choose to make it default * Use third party payment providers and choose to make them default * Use any voice assistant and choose to make it default * User any browser and browser engine and choose to…

This almost sounds too good to be true. What are the odds of this being watered down, or being delayed into eternity?

IMHO, extremely low. The DMA has passed final debate and review, so it's not changing now. The last step is basically a formality. The beauty of the EU is that corporate financial influence is far less pervasive than even in the governments of member nations. The level of abstraction is just too large. Apple, Google, Amazon, et al., can wage a PR campaign, but it's highly unlikely to succeed.
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