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End the Office? Students Want Right to Work From Home

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Re: End the Office? Students Want Right to Work From Home

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There are ways around this. You can do pair programming with screen sharing and VOIP, for example. As a company/manager/lead you might have to enforce good practice, but that's also true in the office. (The less your team needs to worry about this stuff, the more likely they are to be successful no matter where you put them.)

I did pair programming with screen sharing and VOIP at my last job: we had one guy who was remote (he moved to the east coast because his wife got a snazzy job in animation, and we didn't feel like letting him go). We tried all the tricks. It works, but it's not like the real thing, and it's a lot more obnoxious and stressful for both parties, even when there aren't technical difficulties. I'd say: don't do it regula…

Better yet, don't do pair programming it all. People still do that?

Re: End the Office? Students Want Right to Work From Home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did pair programming with screen sharing and VOIP at my last job: we had one guy who was remote (he moved to the east coast because his wife got a snazzy job in animation, and we didn't feel like letting him go). We tried all the tricks. It works, but it's not like the real thing, and it's a lot more obnoxious and stressful for both parties, even when there aren't technical difficulties. I'd say: don't do it regula…

Better yet, don't do pair programming it all. People still do that?

Pair programming is the only reason that team's still going, after what management's done to it, with the employee turnover it's gone through amidst idiotic hiring constraints. But even before that, it was doing pretty well.

How about you run your team the way that works for you, and if someone else does pair programming and it works for them, maybe it's okay? :)

Re: End the Office? Students Want Right to Work From Home

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The problem is these people are only thinking about themselves, and not considering the affects of their actions on coworkers. They need to understand how to be a member of the team first, and after that they'll understand how much flexibility in terms of devices, working hours, and location is appropriate. My office lets people have too much flexibility when choosing their work hours and location. --It's not that pe…

Excellent point.

I am near the start of my career (3 years in or so) as a programmer, and I spent much of the first part of that working remotely. Though I enjoyed not having to get dressed and drive in traffic to be at the office by 8am, this severely stunted the development of my work skills. Now, when I was working for a startup, I would spend hours and hours at home on projects and remained fairly disciplined, but that was due to the passion I felt for my work. When that startup folded I had to enter the regular workforce for financial reasons, and I found it much harder to be motivated about what I was doing. When working remotely, I found myself constantly distracted and unfocused, and even though I felt I had fairly strong communications skills, my ability to communicate with co-workers did not develop.

There are numerous problems with younger employees working remotely, but the way it stunts one's development as a professional is probably the worst. Now that I'm in an office, I am constantly exposed not only to people more knowledgeable than I, but also people who have learned how to be a professional and how to work in a team.

One thing in particular that struck me is that I didn't really know how to behave in an office. True, there are a lot of ways that the modern office is kind of depressing, but developing decent working relationships based on mutual respect with your co-workers does a lot to make a workplace tolerable and even enjoyable. This respect is not developed in most cases unless you actually observe and learn some office behavioral norms.

Working remotely can be awesome, and stodgy companies should learn that flexibility has its advantages. But these advantages are often strongest for experienced employees who know how to organize themselves and motivate themselves to get a job done wherever they are for little reason other than professional pride and a paycheck.

Re: End the Office? Students Want Right to Work From Home

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The problem is these people are only thinking about themselves, and not considering the affects of their actions on coworkers. They need to understand how to be a member of the team first, and after that they'll understand how much flexibility in terms of devices, working hours, and location is appropriate. My office lets people have too much flexibility when choosing their work hours and location. --It's not that pe…

I agree. There's a level of team bonding and synergy that is lost when people aren't working with each other face-to-face on a regular basis. No one expects soldiers to telecommute to work.
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