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Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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I sometimes wonder if it's almost deliberate incompetence on Apple's side, to make it seem even more lucrative to buy everything from them. My GF and I sometimes switch/borrow each other earphones and other gear, and she has loads of problems connecting to her Mac or iPhone. Like the Sony MX3000 something she has to reconnect every half an hour or they will be out of sync with the show she's watching on her laptop by…

Judging from other comments, there are still lots of bluetooth problems even if all if your devices are Apple ones.

Oh yes. Colleague has latest iphone 13 pro max, and latest airpods pro. Even this basic apple-apple setup is failing him numerous times, and you would expect this pair to be tweaked to perfection for that price. Conf calls where he had to give up pairing attempts and had to do it via phone. I could understand busy office space interference, but he has same issues at home.

I have Samsung S22 ultra and Sennheiser momentum 2 buds. Pairing works 100% anywhere immediately with aptx (unfortunately they don't support HD variant of codecs). But if I do press play, first 1-2 seconds the music is some ugly skipping. I would rather prefer it to be quiet for longer.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

For what is worth, the same is for android. Whoever thought that changing volume should trigger "play" didn't actually test it. I thought Audible was a virus, I can't shut it down or stop it and whatever I do, it starts playing

That’s not actually Android, or iOS. It’s the car audio system sending the Play command.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #110

Because it's RF, shipping firmware can't be open source -- end user tweakable and replaceable. I bet this is one reason BT will never be good. If it could be open source there would be a winning stacks (or a few) that would bubble up on some git repo and be good enough for most everyone.

Is that a law? There are ath9k wifi cards with open source firmware https://github.com/qca/open-ath9k-htc-firmware

> There are ath9k wifi cards with open source firmware

I use these almost exclusively for laptops and routers, I keep ripping Intel wifi cards out of laptops and replacing them with ath9k cards.

Ever since I started doing so things "just work" - no more random disconnects, lockups, need-to-reboot-to-get-wifi-working-again etc.

Technology can be so nice if it's open.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

what the hell did I just read... but yes Apple's implementation of Bluetooth is quite subpar compared to most peers, even though not sure if Lexus is 100% innocent here

If you consider Apples to be sub par. What’s your standard for decent?

I’ve never had any BT issues with Apple stuff. And most of the other things I own have terrible BT implementations. But maybe because I can’t tell how to check for a good implementation?

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Maybe it’s out of spec, but my little cassette boombox with Bluetooth outperforms every other device I’ve used.

Instant pairing. Multiple devices. Unwavering signal.

Only the speakers and driver circuit let me down. It’s tinny and quiet, even at full volume with tone knob adjustments.

Still, it’s a sure thing as far as connection goes.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #35

People seem to complain a lot about Bluetooth, yet I owned dozens of devices of all vintages and they all played nicely with each other, except for a cheapo pair of MPow earbuds off Amazon. I even managed to transfer old school photos off my ancient 2003 NEC flip phone to my current Android phone even though the former uses Bluetooth 1.1 and the latter 5.1. I also fondly remember using Bluetooth in school to transfer…

My $400 Bose headphones have worse range than my cheap MPow headphones. Perhaps whatever great thought Bose puts in doesn't result in great products....

Using a bluetooth audio dongle can significantly extends the range. My Bose would starts stuttering at ~4m range, but after using a bluetooth audio dongle, it basically cover the whole house now (>10m radius).

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #133

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

Reading your comment made me feel like someone had been spying on me in my car. I go through this same thing in my Lexus every time I drive it as well. It is such a relief to know I am not the only one.

Amen, brother.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #56

Let me pass on to you some ancient Chinese... er, German engineering wisdom: He who understands wireless communication uses cables.

Sadly, apple started a 3.5mm free future and others were happy to jump on that horrible wagon (as well as soapbar sexy designs which you cannot hold without a case, but that's another lovable rant :).

But yeah. My computers have Ethernet whenever they can. That alone saves what little hair I have left.

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