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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Glassdoor has posted a notice on ZURU's page regarding this: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.h... It appears a few other companies are doing this too, including Kraken ( https://www.kraken.com/ ) as you can see here: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Overview/Working-at-Kraken-Digi... EDIT: If anyone from Glassdoor is reading this, please advise on a way to either unlink my profile from my ident…

This is excellent. I'll never work for a company with that warning message.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Neither did the internet. Or electricity before that.

And none of those are basic human needs. They're just comforts we've grown accustomed to.

You're using a different definition than i am then, and dare I say, an archaic one.

Basic human needs and rights only make sense in the context of the society in which said humans are a part of.

Homeless? Not a problem in nomadic tribes. Cities? Basic need / right.

Access to food services? Not a problem for the Buddhist monk. Cities? Basic need / right.

Electricity? Not a problem for the Amish. Cities? Basic need / right.

Internet? Perhaps not as established as the above, but definitely establishing itself very quickly in most cities.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Yeah. Definitely Streisand effected themselves. Wonder if they can sue their own legal counsel for causing themselves so much monetary loss (given that's the grounds they're using to de-anonymize the reviewers)?

Yah. The reviews didn't even look that bad. Nothing like getting lots of press for suing critical employees to improve your rep.

They didn't sue the employees.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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I said try doing it using Tor with JavaScript disabled, which is the safe way to use the Tor Browser. I said nothing about a VPN. A VPN will not save you from leaking identifying information from your device and browser, while the Tor Browser at least attempts to minimize such identifying information.

> "A VPN will not save you from leaking identifying information" What identifying information? There is no identifying information other than IP address, email and anything else you volunteered when signing up. Remember the context here. It's "toy company" grumpy about a negative review, and wanting Glassdoor to hand over what they know. Have a guess what Glassdoor will hand over? Email address, IP, and whatever else…

A company's pettiness can know no bounds, and a toy company is just as capable of hiring firms that specialize in de-anonymization as any other company is. The company itself also has billions of dollars of revenue and can hire experts in the field themselves.

Companies do not just log IP addresses and email addresses, there are billion dollar ad networks that have refined the game of tracking users across browsers and devices, and they certainly do not rely on just IP and email addresses.

Many companies keep extensive logs of analytics data that their customers generate that amount to much more than IP and email addresses. If a company is motivated enough, there really isn't anything stopping them from cross referencing their own logs and employees/users' identifying data with whatever Glassdoor, and any of its partner services they've integrated with, collected from their users.

And it isn't just JavaScript that leaks identifying information, most browsers do it by default. JavaScript just makes it stupidly convenient, more accurate and opens the door for novel methods for collecting identifying information.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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And none of those are basic human needs. They're just comforts we've grown accustomed to.

So you say it’s fine if your office had no electricity and running water?

If it's not required to do the job and they pay well, then why not. I can easily survive 8 hours without running water. Geologists (often with masters or even PhDs titles) working in the field have neither, and they like their jobs.

Moreover, seeing the right to be paid for jerking off while at work as fundamental human right is really unhinged.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Yah. The reviews didn't even look that bad. Nothing like getting lots of press for suing critical employees to improve your rep.

They didn't sue the employees.

Not yet, but they need to know who the employees are, first.

In their filing against Glassdoor, they declared their intent to sue the employees.

The judge's order only permits them to use the information for the purpose of pursuing defamation actions in New Zealand:

> 5. Zuru may use the information disclosed by Glassdoor only for purposes of the anticipated defamation action in New Zealand.

https://casetext.com/case/zuru-inc-v-glassdoor-inc

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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You seem to be building a straw man here?

I assume he is trying to establish a dividing line between acceptable and not. For example, I'd consider all mentioned uses to be unacceptable and hopefully illegal, but I think others may be fine with it.

I an not actually sure that they are illegal - are they?

I can't think of which law stops a company sharing a video of your death - presymably they own the copyright

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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All attempts to sell people on a truly anonymous system should begin with an explanation of the plan to not become 4chan.

Sounds like you've never derived valuable information from 4chan.

This is a bit like saying sewage shouldn’t be kept out of the drinking water supply because it has valuable vitamins in it.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Does Glassdoor even have a legal presence in NZ? If so, why? If not, why are they even bothered by this? Could they theoretically not just play hardball, ignore the NZ courts entirely on the basis that they have no legal entity within NZ, and see what happens? Are there cross-border legal agreements that give the NZ courts any teeth? Or would it come down to NZ having to mandate that all ISPs block Glassdoor within N…

IANAL - you instinct is good generally but you missed a key point. Zuru is suing in CA to compel glassdoor to produce information. Zuru is not suing glassdoor for breaking NZ law in CA. That would make this case go away very quickly. Instead, Zuru is saying they intend to sue NZ individuals in NZ, but in order to sue, they need info from US based glassdoor. there may be some kind of cross border agreement to facilita…

Aha, thanks for that key point, that does change it a lot. I missed that this was in CA and for whatever reason assumed it was all going through the NZ courts.

I am sure there is some form of cross-border agreement between NZ and the US, but I don't know any details about it.

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