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Damn, we're getting ever closer to Atwoods law! "Any application that can be written in JavaScript, will eventually be written in JavaScript." http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2009/08/all-programming-is-...
Good riddance. And once again, all the companies that decided to rely on a proprietary, non standard technology are going to get bitten.
Not really. Silverlight will be about as dead as VB6. Plenty of companies out there are still using VB6. It's not like Microsoft is going to take away the download or something, they'll just stop developing it. Also, why "good riddance"? Do you just hate everything Microsoft or did Silverlight really cause you any problems personally?
It will be much easier to move away from Silverlight than it is from VB6. VB6 will haunt us for generations.
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But why require your developers to learn another set of technologies? Much better IMHO to just have a good web development team who can make internal applications too.
Oh, so everybody should just do HTML no matter what, from now on, for ever and ever, amen? Nobody should ever invent a competing technology because HTML is good enough for you? Is that it?
As long as this technology is easy and free for everyone to implement in compatible ways, yes, you can.
It's a great day, both Flash and Silverlight are on the road to obsolete. I look forward to our new HTML5 overlord.
Well, now that you mention it... SGML/HTML/XML/CSS/JS have the true open standard good side instead of anticompetitive proprietary grip. But let's not fool ourselves, those languages are terrible and backwards. Same with HTTP. Also HTML5 still falls short of many missing features on the web. I'm hoping for a new generation of a better set of languages to take over. But this feels like hoping for x86 to go obsolete, e…
I hope that someday the farting around with compile-to-js stops and we get a true bytecode VM-in-browser.
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I have very rich HTML+JavaScript+JSON interfaces here that make me orders of magnitude more productive than I was in the 90's, but that may be me. OTOH, you may be tied to IE6 and unable to see all this.
Please, show me your best HTML UI components and we will compare them to the native ones or even the Silverlight ones that are available (from Telerik, DevExpress, Infragistics, ComponentOne, etc) Can you even get a data grid that is half as powerful or has as robust an API as something like this? http://www.telerik.com/products/wpf/gridview.aspx
Which is the whole point. Gmail runs on my Mac, on my Linux machines, on my OpenSolaris server (actually, it runs OpenIndiana these days) and on my tablet. It would probably run just fine on my AIX boxes if I compiled Firefox or Chromium for them. If Google abandons it (but keep the servers running) it will continue to operate on newer computers and newer browsers until Google pulls the plug.
Wonder what will happen to NetFlix for web. Fallback to Flash I'm guessing...
http://techblog.netflix.com/2010/12/why-we-choose-html5-for-...
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Well, now that you mention it... SGML/HTML/XML/CSS/JS have the true open standard good side instead of anticompetitive proprietary grip. But let's not fool ourselves, those languages are terrible and backwards. Same with HTTP. Also HTML5 still falls short of many missing features on the web. I'm hoping for a new generation of a better set of languages to take over. But this feels like hoping for x86 to go obsolete, e…
Yes, the clientside web stack needs to be obseleted as well. I hope that someday the farting around with compile-to-js stops and we get a true bytecode VM-in-browser.
VM isn't necessarily going to make things better. JS execution speed increased by orders of magnitude (it's getting close to decoding H.264 in real time!)
It's more likely that ES6 and future versions will make JS more palatable and easier to optimize.
Currently it's the DOM that needs work: it's full of messy, needlessly complicated C++-derived interfaces and DOM speed didn't get as much love as the raw JS.
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I have very rich HTML+JavaScript+JSON interfaces here that make me orders of magnitude more productive than I was in the 90's, but that may be me. OTOH, you may be tied to IE6 and unable to see all this.
Please, show me your best HTML UI components and we will compare them to the native ones or even the Silverlight ones that are available (from Telerik, DevExpress, Infragistics, ComponentOne, etc) Can you even get a data grid that is half as powerful or has as robust an API as something like this? http://www.telerik.com/products/wpf/gridview.aspx
Microsoft's IE9 product lead, said - without even saying that it was confidential or not to repeat - 'Silverlight is dead, I give it six months tops' at OnGameStart a couple of months ago. I believe him.
Just the web plugin. No evidence of it going away on WP7 or Windows 8.
http://blog.discountasp.net/build-conference-developers-have...
With Microsoft diagrams, the importance of the technology is proportional to the size of the box.