Use `Python -m Pip`
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Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#2Where this conversation is inevitably going to go: https://xkcd.com/1987/
Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#3I have many friends, who's not working as a programmer, but treat programming as a side job only. And what i observe the common theme from them is, they don't mind software engineering practice. What made me confusing and i think, Python actually did a good job at bringing programming to mass audience.
What's not going good, is, in Python, software engineering practice is not something to be a huge concern, so end-user hardly learn the same way about how to do thing "correctly".
That made me sad though.
Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#4Pyenv[1] solves the multiple versions of python problem in my experience. You can install the version of python you want and then can set that version globally, per directory, and then use that versions pip or take it further and use a virtualenv/poetry shell.
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#5(2019) Not that anything has fundamentally changed, there are just more other ways to install and manage python packages.
Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#6This is great advice. To tack on:
Python has had built-in virtualenv support since 3.3[1], meaning that you can do this:
python -m venv env/
python -m venv --upgrade-deps env/
Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#7This is great advice. To tack on: Python has had built-in virtualenv support since 3.3[1], meaning that you can do this: python -m venv env/ ...on any version of Python released in the last decade and get a reasonable virtual environment. To go one step further, you can also have `venv` automatically bring `pip` and `setuptools` to their latest versions: python -m venv --upgrade-deps env/ ...which you should almost a…
If you're on Debian/Ubuntu, you'd first need to install python3-virtualenv. It does say that though IIRC, if you try without it installed.
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#8Python is a fun language but the ecosystem around it is horrible.
It's a shame. I just want to pip install like I would a package manager
Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#9This is great advice. To tack on: Python has had built-in virtualenv support since 3.3[1], meaning that you can do this: python -m venv env/ ...on any version of Python released in the last decade and get a reasonable virtual environment. To go one step further, you can also have `venv` automatically bring `pip` and `setuptools` to their latest versions: python -m venv --upgrade-deps env/ ...which you should almost a…
If you're on Debian/Ubuntu, you'd first need to install python3-virtualenv. It does say that though IIRC, if you try without it installed.
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Re: Use `Python -m Pip`
#10This is great advice. To tack on: Python has had built-in virtualenv support since 3.3[1], meaning that you can do this: python -m venv env/ ...on any version of Python released in the last decade and get a reasonable virtual environment. To go one step further, you can also have `venv` automatically bring `pip` and `setuptools` to their latest versions: python -m venv --upgrade-deps env/ ...which you should almost a…
If you're on Debian/Ubuntu, you'd first need to install python3-virtualenv. It does say that though IIRC, if you try without it installed.
Almost! `python3-virtualenv` is virtualenv, the third-party tool that ultimately inspired `venv`. `python3-venv` is the Ubuntu/Debian breakout package for `python -m venv`.
TL;DR: Install python3-venv, not python3-virtualenv.
(Ubuntu and Debian's decision to break out core parts of the Python standard library has been an unending source of problems. PEP 668[1] is an in-progress effort to better categorize these kinds of distro changes and improve the user experience around them.)
Edit: I should also qualify: virtualenv is still maintained and useful; venv is contains the subset of virtualenv's functionality that 99% of users use.