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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by knodi123 »

jonathaneunice wrote: post #440
game-of-throws wrote: post #423

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They already do that. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.htm > Glassdoor Alert: Employer Legal Action > This employer has taken legal action against reviewers and/or Glassdoor for the reviews that have appeared on this profile. Please exercise your best judgment when evaluating this employer. Learn more about Glassdoor Alerts.

I see no such alert on Glassdoor's Zuru page. Nor do searches of the web page on "alert" "legal" and "action" lead me to an alert. Like it never happened.

Is this not Glassdoor's Zuru page?

https://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-ZURU-EI_IE2286...

If so, it's on there, down in the reviews section

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by badRNG »

spadros wrote: post #359
HeavyStorm wrote: post #336

Never trusted the fact that reviews on glassdoor AREN'T anonymous... Oh sure, they hide your name and email, but they have it. A good secret isn't a secret if someone knows it. I always wondered if they should - and now I wonder if they could - have really anonymous reviews. Just don't tie a review to a user. Sure, ask users to create accounts, validate them, but once they submit a review, it's store without details.…

Need to track who said what for libel cases. There are plenty of unfairly scathing Glassdoor reviews. If Glassdoor can’t point to who said it, they’re the one who gets sued.

> Need to track who said what for libel cases.

> If Glassdoor can’t point to who said it, they’re the one who gets sued.

Why? HN doesn't have any information on me. If I say something that's alleged to be libelous, does that mean HN is responsible? That seems a bit out there.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by badpun »

tpoacher wrote: post #421
badpun wrote: post #332

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Lol I nominate the above to the title of most entitled and out of touch comment of the month. How is this "basic human need" if online porn didn't even exist before 1990?

Neither did the internet. Or electricity before that.

And none of those are basic human needs. They're just comforts we've grown accustomed to.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by 93po »

8589934591 wrote: post #386

My current company had around 20 or so negative reviews bringing the ratings down to 2. We had a new HR head come in and asked employees to rate 5 stars. Poof. 16 of the negative reviews have vanished. They're now replaced with 5 star reviews. We're currently at 3. HR's goal is to bring it up to 4. I definitely don't trust glassdoor. :(

I saw the opposite at an employer. A bunch of salty people left and posted scathing reviews that were entirely unfounded. The employer encouraged people to leave honest reviews (they didn't pressure for positive, just honest) on Glassdoor, knowing it'd be nearly universally positive because it was a legitimately good place to work for everyone there (except the people that threw a tantrum and left).

Glassdoor refused to accept any of the new reviews. I assume they have some sort of mechanism in place to prevent a flood of new reviews, assuming it's something directed by the employer. Even years later I only see one or two new reviews despite dozens of them being submitted.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by heavyset_go »

exodust wrote: post #288
heavyset_go wrote: post #249

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Try to register an email address using a host that won't have you flagged as a malicious user should you use an account with that host to sign up for major company's services like Glassdoor. It's virtually impossible to use Tor to register an email address without activating JavaScript, and the email hosts that allow it are very sketchy, and my personal suspicions are that many of them are blatant honeypots.

Sorry what? It's trivial to get an email address from legit email provider, create alias addresses, then sign up to something like Glassdoor using VPN. The only thing Glassdoor will know about you is your email address, which is not easily traced back to your real ID if you don't want it to be. Particularly for low level "crime" like negative reviews.

I said try doing it using Tor with JavaScript disabled, which is the safe way to use the Tor Browser. I said nothing about a VPN. A VPN will not save you from leaking identifying information from your device and browser, while the Tor Browser at least attempts to minimize such identifying information.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by YeBanKo »

"Zuru hasn't simply alleged that it suffered a loss; Zuru’s cofounders declared, under penalty of perjury, that because of the negative reviews, Zuru had to spend more money to recruit job candidates for a particular position."

I don't understand the logic of the judge here. If even the most true-to-fact negative review may result in spending more for recruiting. Did not they have to demonstrate that they had monetary losses specifically attributed to dishonest negative review?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by dhosek »

tpoacher wrote: post #424
dhosek wrote: post #418

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Except where’s the money in that for Glassdoor? Glassdoor makes money from job listings and it’s in their interests to have positive reviews of companies as that’s going to get companies to pay for job listings because they’ll get more/better applicants if they have positive reviews.

"Good"companies will continue having positive reviews. I'd argue that "bad" companies with predominantly positive reviews, were the negative reviews were all effectively sued away, presumably hurt Glassdoor's model more than they help it, so it's in their best interests to flag "bad" companies using other means. Also, "good" vs "bad" is an oversimplification. In reality the most likely outcome is that this badge will…

The thing is, that companies tend to irrationally chase money, damn the consequences. I used to work for eHarmony and despite consistent user complaints, they continued to run ads for paying users because they made money from that. They didn’t care about the reputation hit or the quality of the experience, just the revenue that the ads generated. I don’t think that eHarmony was particularly unique in that respect. Everything gets A/B tested to maximize revenue and that’s all anyone seems to care about.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by [deleted] »

heavyset_go wrote: post #475
exodust wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry what? It's trivial to get an email address from legit email provider, create alias addresses, then sign up to something like Glassdoor using VPN. The only thing Glassdoor will know about you is your email address, which is not easily traced back to your real ID if you don't want it to be. Particularly for low level "crime" like negative reviews.

I said try doing it using Tor with JavaScript disabled, which is the safe way to use the Tor Browser. I said nothing about a VPN. A VPN will not save you from leaking identifying information from your device and browser, while the Tor Browser at least attempts to minimize such identifying information.

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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by Beldin »

andai wrote: post #356
OJFord wrote: post #328

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'should' from whose perspective though? 'Sites that don't want Tor users' have no incentive to care do they? If anything it stands to reason such a site would block anything and everything to do with Tor, using it as a search term, usernames containing it, anything? (I don't know much about Tor, so am I missing something about 'middle relays' that such a site would want to allow them?) Edit: oh is the point that you'…

Exit nodes are the interface between Tor and the "clearnet" (regular internet), whereas relays just relay traffic between Tor nodes (to make it harder to trace the route). So there wouldn't be any Tor traffic from this person's IP going to websites. Presumably most folks neither know or care about this distinction and just block all Tor related infrastructure outright, since some of the traffic coming through is mali…

Frankly, as the OP stated, one reason to use a tor relay for direct traffic is to hide your traffic. A bit like a guy in a trench coat and fedora trying to look inconspicuous.

It's not illegal, but it's also not surprising when such folks are escorted out.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by Beldin »

EUROCARE wrote: post #463
PeterisP wrote: post #460

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No, there have been all kinds cases of enforcement action in EU where the user was informed but the employer could not justify the violation of privacy; in general EU law and especially in privacy law it's quite frequent that some explicit "consent" clause in employment contracts (essentially, if it's a standard clause in all agreements and "take it or leave it") is treated as not representing true consent and void.…

What you're talking about has absolutely nothing to do with tracking usage of workplace computers and networks - H&M kept "excessive" (sic) records of personal data of people who were not their employees at all (family members of their employees) - and the problem wasn't that they had some data because in EU you're required to keep track of families of your employees due to tax reasons, but that they had too much of…

In The Netherlands, employees enjoy a reasonable level (much stronger than this scenario) of privacy even on company equipment [1]. That is: the company cannot randomly access an employee's mailbox. Of course, in case of employer-employee dispute, things become hairy - but even then, the company is not allowed to go on a fishing expedition. Though they can go on a confirmation run, looking for specific evidence, e.g. mail from Glassdoor.

Don't know about other EU countries, but at least NL deviates significantly from the sketched scenario.

[1] https://blog.iusmentis.com/2017/11/22/wanneer-mogen-mailbox-...

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