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Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Question- how does a company like Zuru think this is a good idea? Suing a former employee because they left a negative review doesn’t exactly give me warm fuzzies. Is this just a case of C level megalomania?

Insert Supernintendo Chalmers meme. Is it out management culture that is the problem? No must be the peons we employ who leave bad reviews.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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They already do that. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.htm > Glassdoor Alert: Employer Legal Action > This employer has taken legal action against reviewers and/or Glassdoor for the reviews that have appeared on this profile. Please exercise your best judgment when evaluating this employer. Learn more about Glassdoor Alerts.

That's interesting, I didn't know they did that. But it could be better: 1) This alert doesn't show up at all on mobile. 2) IMO this should either affect the overall score or be displayed in search results as well, which is not currently the case: https://www.glassdoor.com/Search/results.htm?keyword=ZURU

Yesterday I accessed the link on mobile and also could not see the warning. I can see it today. Maybe they reacted to your comment?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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My current company had around 20 or so negative reviews bringing the ratings down to 2. We had a new HR head come in and asked employees to rate 5 stars. Poof. 16 of the negative reviews have vanished. They're now replaced with 5 star reviews. We're currently at 3. HR's goal is to bring it up to 4. I definitely don't trust glassdoor. :(

Don't trust anything. I left a truthful, scathing review of where I purchased my vehicle from. I was very unhappy with the experience after making a purchase at a different dealership (Total different experience with my wife).

The review was gone within 24 hours from Google Reviews. It's a racket and completely paid for. I filter by 1 stars at this point otherwise I'm unsure if I'm reading a purchased review.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Reminder that libel vs truth is dependent on where you are. In the US you don’t risk libel when speaking the truth but there are places where this isn’t the case.

My understanding is that a statement can only be found to be libellous if it is false. If it’s true, it’s not libel. You are saying this isn’t the case in some places outside the US. Which places, and how so?

Look at the recent reporting around Shinzo Abe's death in Japan for a really good example of different libel laws. In Japan the burden of proof lies with the entity publishing the information.

A lot of the initial headlines were things like "Abe collapses at rally, shots heard" even though the article itself had a video of him getting shot and then falling down. Others just had a headline that equated to "Abe collapses during rally, currently in critical condition" without even mentioning a shooter.

Here's an interesting article about it: https://www.tofugu.com/japan/sued-in-japan/

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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It’s a contractual agreement to not air dirty laundry in exchange for money. If you want to bitch about the company publicly, don’t accept a payment not to.

Unfortunately, this is not true. An NDA is not a free pass to being able to censor whatever you want, even if the person signing the NDA took a fee, or received payment. "NDAs do not prohibit people from reporting suspected corrupt conduct to an appropriate authority. The Crime and Corruption Act 2001 and the Public Interest Disclosure Act 2010 provide safeguards that allow people who have signed an NDA to report sus…

I don't know that I'd consider Glassdoor "an appropriate authority" to be reporting corrupt or illegal conduct to.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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How certain are you that in all jurisdictions where an (ex-)employer can get an injunction to force glassdoor to reveal the email address they wouldn't be able to get the legit email provider to reveal your true identity?

Glassdoor provides the email `ilikebigbutts@gmail.com`, Google only have VPN/Public WiFi IPs for that account because I'm not an idiot who put my real details into the Google Account. Not sure I see the problem. They gonna subpoena Starbucks to get the (now probably long deleted) security footage for the time the negative review was posted?

Google, Microsoft, etc make you provide a phone number to create an account, at least when you do it through Tor.

It's annoyingly hard to create a truly anonymous email account these days. Even more privacy-respecting providers like ProtonMail make you verify your account using a phone number or email address when signing up through Tor (though at least with ProtonMail they claim to not associate that information with your account, and you can bypass verification by upgrading to a paid account via a Bitcoin payment).

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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My current company had around 20 or so negative reviews bringing the ratings down to 2. We had a new HR head come in and asked employees to rate 5 stars. Poof. 16 of the negative reviews have vanished. They're now replaced with 5 star reviews. We're currently at 3. HR's goal is to bring it up to 4. I definitely don't trust glassdoor. :(

I don’t trust online reviews in general. I read 1 and 2 star reviews to check for anything I may need to be cautious about but I generally assume that 5 star reviews are intentional padding. Do you find yourself leaving 5 star reviews regularly? Leaving reviews at all? Are you more motivated to leave a review if a bad experience or a good experience?

For almost everything, I try and be nuanced and avoid 5 or 1 star reviews. This has bit me awkwardly, in one case my barber who I rated 4 stars respinded to the review and asked what they could do to make it 5 stars. I guess that was enough to make it 5 lol.

On Glassdoor it's so obvious when something is HR or marketing. Lots of "people wear many hats and there's a high standard for quality, which isn't for everyone" type speak.

Negatives: "Sometimes we're too ambitious"

I'm considering giving a 1 star to a bar in my neighborhood. Pizza was shit, a side of fries was $8, service was fine, but it really burned spending $18 on just a beer (during happy hour) and fries.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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They already do that. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.htm > Glassdoor Alert: Employer Legal Action > This employer has taken legal action against reviewers and/or Glassdoor for the reviews that have appeared on this profile. Please exercise your best judgment when evaluating this employer. Learn more about Glassdoor Alerts.

That's interesting, I didn't know they did that. But it could be better: 1) This alert doesn't show up at all on mobile. 2) IMO this should either affect the overall score or be displayed in search results as well, which is not currently the case: https://www.glassdoor.com/Search/results.htm?keyword=ZURU

It's showing on my mobile phone?

And I just checked a company where I know it happened.

No warning.. so no idea why and how they show it..

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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> It appears a few other companies are doing this too, including Kraken ( https://www.kraken.com/ ) Kraken is still silly for going after them, IMO, but the Kraken case isn't as cut and dry. The person who had left the review on Kraken had accepted a large severance package that was conditional on signing a NDA. I think the bad PR Kraken got for going after them wasn't worth it (especially as the review wasn't really…

Being a shitty employer isn't the sort of thing an NDA is made for. It's not a trade secret that they treat their employees poorly.

Idk... a lot of companies "secret sauce" seems to be squeezing the life and passion out of employees to make as much money as they can. Sounds like a trade secret they'd need to protect.

/s

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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At least in the EU, it's illegal yes - https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/sep/05/romanian-chat-me...

It's definitely NOT illegal in EU if the user is appropriately informed, usually in your employment contract you sign a clause about that. Even the government does it to their employees.

No, there have been all kinds cases of enforcement action in EU where the user was informed but the employer could not justify the violation of privacy; in general EU law and especially in privacy law it's quite frequent that some explicit "consent" clause in employment contracts (essentially, if it's a standard clause in all agreements and "take it or leave it") is treated as not representing true consent and void.

The largest example probably is the 2020 GDPR fine of 35 million euro for clothing retailer H&M for violating the privacy of their employees, despite the employees being informed of that.

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