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FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by 6510 »

cruano wrote: post #557
tablespoon wrote: post #474

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> The problem should be that the data is collected and provided to the government whenever they want - not that it's not the Chinese government. We had this discussion after the Snowden leaks and nothing changed whatsoever. Back then it was the US government and the US gov had the chance to change the rules so this could not happen. Now they're up in arms because other governments do the exact same thing. It's really…

> The differentiator here is national security Because no one can hack Facebook and get that data anyway? hell, maybe they don't even need to

No need to hack, if you have the right connections and enough money you can buy anything from the US gov, the US gov has access to all data and non US citizens have no rights.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by belter »

stevenjgarner wrote: post #457
honkdaddy wrote: post #397

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I don't think it's against the rules at all; we had a thread a couple weeks ago which ended up being mostly in German. We native speakers enjoy the privilege of reading English nearly every where we go online, it should be no skin off our back to pop open Google Translate every once in a while.

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Above means "Hello world"....

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by cronix »

TrispusAttucks wrote: post #500
thematrixturtle wrote: post #489

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That's... not a great analogy. I trust my wife a lot more than I trust Mark Zuckerberg (or Xi Jinping).

Yes but the United States government trusts Mark Zuckerberg more than Xi Jinping.

Of course they do - they work together. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zqEvQKO5_gM

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #544
thiagoharry wrote: post #518

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> The differentiator here is national security, Which means that all countries other than the US also should be banning Facebook, and most US companies. As Snowden showed, most of them have a history of wire fraud.

China did ban Facebook, as did Russia and North Korea. Countries where Facebook is not banned are largely allies of the US.

What does the fact that we are allies change? This is espionnage in any case and the US has shown that they do not miss a beat when it comes to stealing information from us.

We would be doing the same of course if we were not much weaker and if our products were actually used over there.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by kebman »

FreqSep wrote: post #458
akho wrote: post #335

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In the US, you are expected to uphold the line that brings you donors. That makes leftist parties non-viable. That’s not such a big difference from the Chinese situation as you’d think, except in direction.

What makes leftist parties unviable is the majority of the population disapproving of socialism. People online vastly overestimate the actual effect of money on political results, naturally disregarding all the donations made to candidates that lose and ignoring races where the lesser funded candidates win. If Americans wanted a leftist government, they’d vote for it, simple as that. And yet even in the most left lea…

This is correct and supported by statistical findings within Political Science.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by nimbius »

snehk wrote: post #10

I don't have a horse in this race at all, but the annoying part is that the same rules don't get applied across the board. Everything they're accusing TikTok of - from data harvesting to the government having access to said data - is true for western companies as well and that should be the problem. Not the fact that the data is now in the hands of the Chinese but that the data is being collected at all provided to t…

the fact that the rhetoric and wardrumming has not abated seems to indicate FAANG players are facing a no-win situation when it comes to competition. The fact that Facebook and Youtube shorts are near-nightly parity scrapes of Tiktok content and they still cant manage to staunch the loss of viewers is a pretty damning indictment of the leadership at these groups.

Huawei went through basically the same thing when western chip companies and telcos were beat to market by nearly a year for 5G. Grinding the red scare axe to an audience of bought and paid for octogenarians is still a pretty good grift it seems.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by d8tltanc »

Apple's data in China is handled by China government affiliated entity https://technode.com/2018/01/10/apple-icloud-guizhou/ . China's typical play book in tech field is to have the original products banned and have their own copycat flourish.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

random-human wrote: post #435
peoplefromibiza wrote: post #181

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The British brought over, sold, and legalized slavery in the 13 colonies (and other North American locations), long before the USA was even a thing. The USA slave problem was started by Europeans.

> The USA slave problem was started by Europeans.

You mean Dutch and British, right?

Not all Europeans are equal

- In 959, Doge Pietro Candiano IV emitted a decree stipulating that no Venetian citizen could lend money to a Greek slave trader, and no Venetian ship would be permitted to transport slaves in Greece. The ban on slave transport was later extended "Ultra Polam" or beyond the Venetian outpost of Pola

- In 1435 Pope Eugene IV condemned slavery, of other Christians, in Sicut Dudum; furthermore, he explicitly forbade the enslavement of the Guanches.

- On 22 December 1741, Pope Benedict XIV promulgated the papal bull "Immensa Pastorum Principis" against the enslavement of the indigenous peoples of the Americas and other countries

Long before the USA was a thing (and Italy for that matter)

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