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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Which countries don’t allow a company to monitor activity on company equipment and company networks during company time?

The idea that 'company time' and 'company equipment' gives the company absolute right to record and ownership of recording is almost feudal. Imagine I were to die in the office in some embarrasing way, on company time, in full view of company CCTV, do they have the right to upload the video to YouTube to make money from it? What if they record audio of me at home, can they publish it? Can they show it to anyone at th…

You seem to be building a straw man here?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Reminder that libel vs truth is dependent on where you are. In the US you don’t risk libel when speaking the truth but there are places where this isn’t the case.

My understanding is that a statement can only be found to be libellous if it is false. If it’s true, it’s not libel. You are saying this isn’t the case in some places outside the US. Which places, and how so?

It would surprise me if it is called libel in those countries. The more likely translation would be defamation.

In Sweden for example there is publisher responsibility which can limit truthful but harmful statement. Anti-doxxing laws has a similar purpose. There are also countries where people have a right to be forgotten, especially once a person has served their time in prison.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which countries don’t allow a company to monitor activity on company equipment and company networks during company time?

Most of developed countries except the US. People have legitimate expectations of privacy in the office and/or during working time. Employment means selling your skills and effort, not becoming a servant or a slave in a feudal society. Additionally, having delicate information in the hands of the company in general or sysadm/security engineers create a ton of liabilities. There has to be a balance between security ne…

Practically, the company needs to administer and secure their equipment for a number of reasons, including a legal need to keep their customers data safe.

That requires them to use tools which can easily let them know, for instance, what websites someone is visiting, and what executables are executing on the machine, what devices are being accessed and when, etc.

It’s pretty fundamental. An individual looking to secure their machine would need to do the same thing.

If a company abuses that to spy on every waking moment of an employee, that is obviously abusive (barring cases of investigating legitimate suspected abuse by the employee I guess?). But you’d need to somehow codify in law the line, and I haven’t see anyone having any success here so far.

I have seen employees steal massive amounts of trade secrets, secretly steal customers from employers, run porn sites from company equipment, etc.

I’ve also seen employees so creepy stuff like stalking customers, stalking other employees, harassing other employees using this tech too.

Personally, I’ve always kept employer laptops and stuff closed and off when not used, and try to segregate personal and work equipment, but that’s been more to avoid something embarrassing coming up during a presentation or the like.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminder that libel vs truth is dependent on where you are. In the US you don’t risk libel when speaking the truth but there are places where this isn’t the case.

My understanding is that a statement can only be found to be libellous if it is false. If it’s true, it’s not libel. You are saying this isn’t the case in some places outside the US. Which places, and how so?

Even in the US it depends on jurisdiction: https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2009/04/feder...

And if it affects the state, truth wasn't/isn't always a defense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seditious_libel?wprov=sfla1

And in other legal systems, the value of truth depends on whether the case is a private or public one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation?wprov=sfla1

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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This is actually an amazing opportunity for Glassdoor.

Just put a "badge" next to companies known to sue employees who post reviews on Glassdoor.

No reviews are even needed from that point on to signify a shitty company; for all anyone knows all negative reviews may have been taken down through legal action, but the badge stays, signifying that there was at least one review so damaging that they had to get lawyers involved (or that the company climate is of that toxic kind that sues its own disgruntled employees more generally).

In the end suing will end up acting as the ultimate bad review for that company on the site.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Once had a contract where my client wanted me to do "security work", which was initially meant to be for pentesting their clients, but it turned into me building their wifi auth system. At some point in the gig, one of their clients went to them asking them if it was possible to de-anonymize someone glassdoor review since someone still-employed worked with them. They then went to me to see if I could do it for them.…

Another query you can use for another kind of alert is "Glassdoor Alert: Inflated Reviews site:glassdoor.com" for companies that were caught trying to fake positive reviews to flood out negative ones.

I had a company do this once after they let me go.

The place was a toxic personality cult around the owner/manager, and I left a Glassdoor review saying as much. Someone at the company found it within a couple months, and then overnight several current employees had posted glowing reviews refuting mine. Certainly we wouldn't expect a personality cult to launch an Internet brigade to protect the boss' ego.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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This is actually an amazing opportunity for Glassdoor. Just put a "badge" next to companies known to sue employees who post reviews on Glassdoor. No reviews are even needed from that point on to signify a shitty company; for all anyone knows all negative reviews may have been taken down through legal action, but the badge stays, signifying that there was at least one review so damaging that they had to get lawyers in…

Except where’s the money in that for Glassdoor? Glassdoor makes money from job listings and it’s in their interests to have positive reviews of companies as that’s going to get companies to pay for job listings because they’ll get more/better applicants if they have positive reviews.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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post #35

Once had a contract where my client wanted me to do "security work", which was initially meant to be for pentesting their clients, but it turned into me building their wifi auth system. At some point in the gig, one of their clients went to them asking them if it was possible to de-anonymize someone glassdoor review since someone still-employed worked with them. They then went to me to see if I could do it for them.…

If you experience deliberate techniques* used to erode your sanity inside-outside the company, then no matter the cost, you must make sure it gets public. There is an ongoing epidemic at certain companies where individuals who refuse to become a lapdog on all fours, who reject the brainwashing experiments and who reject the pretend you are stupid and should not excel in your job mantra are forced out.

* psyops: running/scurrying in your periphery

mentioning personal things from your personal/sex life yesterday, but addressed to others

compliment you for bad work, berate for good work

silent treatment

throwing out your performant code and replacing it with trash

employees one after each other, one by one turn against you, trying to give you the impression you are going insane... imagine you talk with someone on a daily basis and then all of a sudden he refuses to interact with you or gives you looks and avoiding you

slamming doors

doing borderline insane things before you, like getting elbow deep in the toilet then smiling at you

pretend face to face that nothing happened

"oldworld" things

etc etc

This oppressive system must be burned down, nuked big time.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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This is actually an amazing opportunity for Glassdoor. Just put a "badge" next to companies known to sue employees who post reviews on Glassdoor. No reviews are even needed from that point on to signify a shitty company; for all anyone knows all negative reviews may have been taken down through legal action, but the badge stays, signifying that there was at least one review so damaging that they had to get lawyers in…

What about a badge for companies who unsuccessfully sued for the info? This would both guard against bad companies who are the genuinely litigious jerks we want to see hurt, and give pause to employees to frivolously libel themselves to attack a company without ground (something that would be clear were the company to successfully sue).
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