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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by poisonborz »

onelovetwo wrote: post #161
Someone1234 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually a fantastic response. - Reminds reviewers to avoid libel, since it may undergo legal review. - Tells potential employees or customers that this is how the company responds to bad press/negativity (i.e. disproportionately). - Doesn't subject Glassdoor to potential libel since the statement is objectively true (see court records). Although I won't get too positive about Glassdoor as I've read negative r…

If they really wanted to make a statement they would boot them from their platform.

This is both more fair and more informative than censoring the company altogether.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by Beltalowda »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #113

This is where web3 might finally have some use. Truely anonymous decentralised network for reviewing companies. No entity to subpoena and no server logs or user data anyway if they could.

It will be useless due to spam, unreasonably disgruntled employees posting lies, forced or fraudulent positive reviews, and even outright scams ("pay up or we will post a negative review every week"), etc.

I wish it weren't so, but I'm afraid that will be the reality of it.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by lotsofpulp »

phoenixreader wrote: post #135
lotsofpulp wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why is a US court telling Glassdoor to do something because of a New Zealand law?

I read the ruling. It is apparently because of this law in the US statutes: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1782 which authorizes a judge to "order [some person] to produce a document or other thing for use in a proceeding in a foreign or international tribunal ... The order may be made ... upon the application of any interested person" It is mostly up to the judge's discretion, but case law establishes 4…

Interesting. Thanks for the research!

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by underwater »

I'd not heard of Zuru before. Turns out they make tons of cheap plastic crap that makes Happy Meal toys look well made. Their main brands are chinzy collectable toys that combine gambling with too many layers of plastic wrapping, Mini Brandz (because having kids collect mini plastic versions of Heinz and Miracle Whip isn't weird), and Bunch O Balloons (the ultimate in single-use plastic).

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by cyphar »

koolba wrote: post #149
babyshake wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you sign into a personal Google account on a new Chrome profile on a managed laptop, can they get access to your entire Google account (drive, emails, etc.) remotely? Can they use an auth token or something to automate the process of downloading all your data? If so, is this legal?

> If so, is this legal? If it’s a company provided laptop then it’s a good idea to assume that every keystroke, DNS request, and network packet is fair game. Laptops are cheap. There’s no reason to mix personal and corporate usage.

> If it’s a company provided laptop then it’s a good idea to assume that every keystroke, DNS request, and network packet is fair game.

From an OPSEC perspective, sure. But the question was whether it's legal for an employer to do it.

You might also get a phone call (on your private phone) about a private medical matter while at work, but I would hope your employer couldn't use the CCTV audio they have in the office to decide to fire you based on that information (though I don't know if US laws actually protect workers in this case -- in Australia and basically all of Eastern Europe this would be insanely illegal on several levels).

> Laptops are cheap.

Not for everyone.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by cubancigar11 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #14
Mandatum wrote: post #2

Glassdoor has posted a notice on ZURU's page regarding this: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.h... It appears a few other companies are doing this too, including Kraken ( https://www.kraken.com/ ) as you can see here: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Overview/Working-at-Kraken-Digi... EDIT: If anyone from Glassdoor is reading this, please advise on a way to either unlink my profile from my ident…

That's actually a fantastic response. - Reminds reviewers to avoid libel, since it may undergo legal review. - Tells potential employees or customers that this is how the company responds to bad press/negativity (i.e. disproportionately). - Doesn't subject Glassdoor to potential libel since the statement is objectively true (see court records). Although I won't get too positive about Glassdoor as I've read negative r…

I was hired via a consultancy firm (Ness Technologies) that would have me work in PayPal chennai office back in 2012. A new CEO came and basically reduced work force drastically, the worst mass layoffs I have ever seen. The environment then changed to worse rapidly etc. etc.

I decided to quit the toxic environment. Contractually I was supposed to get 2 months of basic pay, but Ness and Paypal conspired together and concocted a story where I have falsely accused someone of sexual harassasment and since it is false, I can be fired without that 2 months of money. Then they asked my to nicely sign a letter where I forfeit that salary willingly or they will report "this gross misconduct" to future employers.

My review in Glassdoor lasted a year.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by braingenious »

onelovetwo wrote: post #163
braingenious wrote: post #30

I’ve never used Glassdoor, so it’s a big surprise that they collect and retain identity information in the first place. I would never, ever provide my real name while talking about my previous employers, even if I was told that I would remain “anonymous”

I'm curious does it matter if its a previous employer? what could they possibly do?

I live in the US, where people and corporations are notoriously litigious and I’ve worked at some terrible places.

For example, I once had a coworker that would openly crush up and snort various pills between calls while fundraising for one of the two main political parties. This was not an issue for management.

I would never post [name of that employer] from any account that could possibly be attached to my name anywhere.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by Mandatum »

flog wrote: post #169
nemo44x wrote: post #159

Sad New Zealand doesn’t have freedom of speech. Especially odd as our western media fawns over their police state and tyrannical government. This was never mentioned though.

NZ is very well regarded for freedoms, literally topping the list https://freedomhouse.org/country/new-zealand/freedom-world/2...

Australia and New Zealand are near the top on that list. Libel and defamation is a very commonly sought after legal means of silencing an organisation, entity or person.

In Australia it's been weaponised by politicians already: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/24/world/australia/defamatio...

Yes, both countries are places you can raise a family, start a business, walk down the street without getting shot (at least it's very, very unlikely) - you can watch anything (provided it hasn't been censored which has laxed over the years), but you really, really can't say what you want about anyone.

There's a very well-known security specialist who's sued multiple boutique, small-time consultancies and individuals for defamation of his character. He was called a charlatan. This is what it's like on a small-scale, you can't even talk about an individual at local conferences in case they're recorded, because you'll be taken to court (and have to spend 10's of thousands of dollars defending yourself).

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by alasdair_ »

koolba wrote: post #149
babyshake wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you sign into a personal Google account on a new Chrome profile on a managed laptop, can they get access to your entire Google account (drive, emails, etc.) remotely? Can they use an auth token or something to automate the process of downloading all your data? If so, is this legal?

> If so, is this legal? If it’s a company provided laptop then it’s a good idea to assume that every keystroke, DNS request, and network packet is fair game. Laptops are cheap. There’s no reason to mix personal and corporate usage.

This is an interesting question post-pandemic where the network the laptop is using may be an employees home network, especially if there is some kind of active scanning involved.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by [deleted] »

nhooyr wrote: post #126
atwood22 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it’s a managed corporate laptop that uses Chrome, then they could remotely check the browser history, likely directly to the review itself.

Are you sure this is possible? I thought managed google accounts didn't allow admins to access browsing or any other history.

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