When Google and apple came out during the pandemic and showed the anonymous data on every city… it was pretty obvious they were prepared for that way too quickly.
It’s safe to assume, you’re tracked 24/7 and everything’s recorded imo.
New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
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Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#172Fellow humans, there are alternatives to being tracked via cell phone! Your neck need not be under anyone's boot! You don't even need to give up any functionality: Data service: The simplest thing is to buy a prepaid SIM and top it off with cash. The lovely people over at /r/nocontract maintain a big spreadsheet so you can filter by various properties of the available contracts. Another way to go is to pay for a post…
AT&T is able to tell when you activate your prepaid phone what other phones are nearby. Drug dealers have been unmasked using this. They thought they did everything right but someone had a normal phone plan near their phone as it was activated and then the pre-paid phones were around those with regular plan phones. Unmasking the whole group. The best way is buy the prepaid phone from a 7/11 type store. Wait 6 months,…
The level of effort to do that is insane lol
Then the first time you talk, your voice unmasks you.
I’d you have a phone near by or any microphone or camera you can theoretically be identified.
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#173It's important everyone becomes educated about the fact that virtually every mobile app sells some part of your data that leads to some private company possessing the ability to draw a circle around your house on map and then detect all patterns of life without any PII. I don't think it's fair to pit this as a US gov't surveillance problem. It's true though - the Government missions involved, where this type of data…
These sorts of things are compartmentalized.
The FBI, ICE and DEA absolutely do scaled collection. DEA/ICE was known (ie NY Times article) to be tracking cars via LPR/camera a decade ago up and down I95, for example. Individual cities and other jurisdictions share LPR and camera data. Things like fusion centers and drug task forces probably get access to various forms of intel.
Civilian government is different - they are subject to lots of controls and audit, and usually take data protection seriously.
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#174The Feds have been buying consumer data for decades, this is far from new. This goes back to “junk mail”, pre internet. As usual the US congress sat by and did nothing, and in all likelihood, will continue to do nothing.
Buying? The NSA has backdoors in nearly everything through PRISM and they directly monitor internet traffic. Zero chance congress would/could put a stop to that.
If you’re a non intelligence agency trying to do opioid surveillance, easier to buy insurance and marketing data than to break the law.
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#175It's important everyone becomes educated about the fact that virtually every mobile app sells some part of your data that leads to some private company possessing the ability to draw a circle around your house on map and then detect all patterns of life without any PII. I don't think it's fair to pit this as a US gov't surveillance problem. It's true though - the Government missions involved, where this type of data…
> virtually every mobile app Reminder to readers to use F-Droid
naive question, if you use f droid and you have location services on, use a bunch of social apps, have google maps on it, use it normally, what extra layer will f droid have with all of those leaks anyways?
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#176I swear I’ve seen this article title a dozen times over the last dozen years
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on your threat model. I don't include state actors in mine, they can employ $5 hammers just as easily as crypto breakers
you’re fine with state actors being able to precisely target propaganda / inciting calls to violence based on psychological profiles etc, including your neighbors
state actors are much more prescient than that. From every tail light ticket to rain water collection law, the state bears every law on the threat of murder. That's the price for the social contract.
Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#178Fellow humans, there are alternatives to being tracked via cell phone! Your neck need not be under anyone's boot! You don't even need to give up any functionality: Data service: The simplest thing is to buy a prepaid SIM and top it off with cash. The lovely people over at /r/nocontract maintain a big spreadsheet so you can filter by various properties of the available contracts. Another way to go is to pay for a post…
AT&T is able to tell when you activate your prepaid phone what other phones are nearby. Drug dealers have been unmasked using this. They thought they did everything right but someone had a normal phone plan near their phone as it was activated and then the pre-paid phones were around those with regular plan phones. Unmasking the whole group. The best way is buy the prepaid phone from a 7/11 type store. Wait 6 months,…
That sounds like “the Wire”. The cops figured it out on the show, cops watch the show, and I’m sure that’s probably a well-worn path.
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#179Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
> virtually every mobile app Reminder to readers to use F-Droid
naive question, if you use f droid and you have location services on, use a bunch of social apps, have google maps on it, use it normally, what extra layer will f droid have with all of those leaks anyways?
Also curious of this