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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by bombcar »

amatecha wrote: post #49
colinmhayes wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glassdoors business model is selling the ability to take down bad reviews. Why would they out their customers?

Hmm, that doesn't correlate with what they say[0] on their support site: "No! Employers cannot pay Glassdoor to remove reviews." That said, it seems like negative reviews can easily end up violating one of the many other terms of use[1] around review content. Specifically that a user will not: "Post Content that is defamatory, libelous, or fraudulent"... and "Act in a manner that is [...] otherwise objectionable (as…

This is as old as the BBB - you never ever "pay to remove reviews" you just, as a paying member in good standing, have the ability to request review of reviews, and the working ability to make sure things are "accurate and resolved".

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

NamTaf wrote: post #33

Does Glassdoor even have a legal presence in NZ? If so, why? If not, why are they even bothered by this? Could they theoretically not just play hardball, ignore the NZ courts entirely on the basis that they have no legal entity within NZ, and see what happens? Are there cross-border legal agreements that give the NZ courts any teeth? Or would it come down to NZ having to mandate that all ISPs block Glassdoor within N…

IANAL - you instinct is good generally but you missed a key point.

Zuru is suing in CA to compel glassdoor to produce information.

Zuru is not suing glassdoor for breaking NZ law in CA. That would make this case go away very quickly.

Instead, Zuru is saying they intend to sue NZ individuals in NZ, but in order to sue, they need info from US based glassdoor.

there may be some kind of cross border agreement to facilitate information between NZ and US. Politics aside, i dont know if a US company could be compelled by a US court to produce information to sue chinese or russian citizens, under those respective laws/jurisdictions?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by av_conk »

yarg wrote: post #56

I just attempted to look at the reviews. There's an uncloseable pop-up telling you to log in. Normally I wouldn't bother, but curiousity got the best of me - I logged in with my Google OAuth. Not so fast - you haven't contributed to Glassdoor in the last 12 months, here's another annoying pop up and you cannot dismiss it until you do. Does anyone actually bother to use this dark pattern infused service?

You can use a firefox extension to bypass that popup as well as other paywalls.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by bombcar »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #73
crummy wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I pay Glassdoor to take down a review? Is that on their website somewhere?

The rumor has long been that they contact you about it. Presumably they figure it based on page views and review volume to determine your hiring rate and churn etc and sentiment analysis of your worst reviews so they aren't just shotgunning these offers at every company that has reviews on their site. Just passing along rumors I have no particularly informed insight here or verifiable reason to believe this is true,…

How else does Glassdoor make money, then? So somehow it's payola.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by lotsofpulp »

gruez wrote: post #21
walrus01 wrote: post #18

Does Glassdoor actually have any business operations or webservers in NZ that would be subject to this order if it was issued from a court in NZ? Since when does a NZ order apply to a non NZ company. For example, American media regularly publishes the names of persons charged with crimes in Canada where the name may be banned from publication by a Canadian court. It's a first amendment thing. If US companies start ob…

> Does Glassdoor actually have any business operations or webservers in NZ that are subject to this order? The court order itself is from a california court. They can't just tell that court to fuck off.

But why is a US court telling Glassdoor to do something because of a New Zealand law?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by bombcar »

livinginfear wrote: post #50

In the past I've been tempted to leave reviews for bad employers I've had. I've always come to the conclusion that the risks of doing so totally outweigh the completely minimal rewards. The risk of being deanonymised, and receiving retaliation from the company is too high. My threat model didn't include the possibility of litigation compelling the company to hand over PII. I was more concerned that I'd inadvertently…

I see no reason to leave a review on basically any site for anything; but especially a bad review on something like Glassdoor, except out of some spite or something.

Maybe if they paid for them.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by mypalmike »

willcipriano wrote: post #46
dylan604 wrote: post #36

Would these companies have a case if an employee left refusing to sign the paper work agreeing to not talk shit? One company I left tied their severance package to a signature on that kind of agreement.

They would have to prove the statement is false in court and that they suffered harm due to it. Otherwise it's protected free speech.

That depends on jurisdiction. Not all countries protect truthful disparaging public remarks.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by pcurve »

gumby wrote: post #62
Mandatum wrote: post #2

Glassdoor has posted a notice on ZURU's page regarding this: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.h... It appears a few other companies are doing this too, including Kraken ( https://www.kraken.com/ ) as you can see here: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Overview/Working-at-Kraken-Digi... EDIT: If anyone from Glassdoor is reading this, please advise on a way to either unlink my profile from my ident…

That may not help former zuru’s employees but obviously is a clear message to prospective ones. A nice FU from Glassdoor. More interestingly it’s a nice way to forestall future lawsuits as well.

They're going to have a heck of a time hiring. I hope this gets a lot of media attention globally.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by kadoban »

JadeNB wrote: post #78
synicalx wrote: post #25

Why you should never leave Glassdoor reviews using; - Your real name - Your real email address - Your real salary and job title - Your normal vocabulary and idioms - Any of your devices (as in, go to an internet cafe or something) They can deanonymize as much as they like all they're going to find is that "dbcooper42069[at]hotmail", using non-region specific language, took a very dim view of company X's management st…

> - Your normal vocabulary and idioms I think that this one is way harder to avoid than you might think, short of having someone else write the review for you (which might not be a bad idea!).

You might be able to get by with something like throwing it through Google Translate to a different language, then back, and then fix only anything that's _unreadably_ awful. Might be too blunt of a tool though.

The other thing I can think to try to do would just be avoid any complete sentences, just give short bulletpoints or something. Resticting the amount of text should make it harder to get anything like a real match.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by feet »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #80
chaps wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty uncool to give employers ideas on how to force their IT staff to rat out employees who speak out. Edit: yikes, people.

Pretty much everyone is carrying around a pocket computer connected to the internet 24/7 with which they can do all their non work related tasks on, including badmouthing their employer.

How many get connected to company WiFi?
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