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Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by gruez »

walrus01 wrote: post #18

Does Glassdoor actually have any business operations or webservers in NZ that would be subject to this order if it was issued from a court in NZ? Since when does a NZ order apply to a non NZ company. For example, American media regularly publishes the names of persons charged with crimes in Canada where the name may be banned from publication by a Canadian court. It's a first amendment thing. If US companies start ob…

> Does Glassdoor actually have any business operations or webservers in NZ that are subject to this order?

The court order itself is from a california court. They can't just tell that court to fuck off.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by Mandatum »

walrus01 wrote: post #18

Does Glassdoor actually have any business operations or webservers in NZ that would be subject to this order if it was issued from a court in NZ? Since when does a NZ order apply to a non NZ company. For example, American media regularly publishes the names of persons charged with crimes in Canada where the name may be banned from publication by a Canadian court. It's a first amendment thing. If US companies start ob…

Zuru's entity spans multiple regions, a Californian court can compel a US-based entity to hand over records for data held in another region. It's the reason why some organisations refuse to work with any organisations that can be compelled under the PATRIOT Act (about 98% of tech companies).

Also see: Kim DotCom. Broke no laws in New Zealand, will eventually be extradited for a civil matter. He's delayed it a long time though.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by kelnos »

gruez wrote: post #9

>Glassdoor’s FAQ goes into a little more detail about how they will defend user anonymity. They know this is vital their success: If glassdoor cares so much about anonymity, why didn't they engineer their site in such a way that prevents them from being able to deanonymize reviewers? For instance, not keeping identifying user details after they have been verified?

Probably because doing so is hard. You not only have to verify that a review is coming from an actual current or former employee, but then you have to ensure that the same employee cannot write multiple reviews. If you discard all links between a reviewer account and a review, how do you do that?

I imagine there's some sort of zero-knowledge magic cryptographic thing you can do (or maybe something simpler, like a... Bloom filter?), but perhaps Glassdoor didn't want to go for the effort and expense to implement it.

Just goes to show you, unless you can prove anonymity client-side, never assume you're anonymous on the internet, anywhere.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by 300bps »

ohazi wrote: post #3
Mandatum wrote: post #2

Glassdoor has posted a notice on ZURU's page regarding this: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Reviews/ZURU-Reviews-E2286297.h... It appears a few other companies are doing this too, including Kraken ( https://www.kraken.com/ ) as you can see here: https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Overview/Working-at-Kraken-Digi... EDIT: If anyone from Glassdoor is reading this, please advise on a way to either unlink my profile from my ident…

> Glassdoor Alert: Employer Legal Action > This employer has taken legal action against reviewers and/or Glassdoor for the reviews that have appeared on this profile. Please exercise your best judgment when evaluating this employer. Learn more about Glassdoor Alerts. i.e. "FFS stop writing reviews, but assume the worst is true and stay the hell away from these clowns"

Wow. That statement is the worst kind of review any potential employee could ever read.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by synicalx »

Why you should never leave Glassdoor reviews using;

- Your real name

- Your real email address

- Your real salary and job title

- Your normal vocabulary and idioms

- Any of your devices (as in, go to an internet cafe or something)

They can deanonymize as much as they like all they're going to find is that "dbcooper42069[at]hotmail", using non-region specific language, took a very dim view of company X's management style and pay rates.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by pcurve »

colinmhayes wrote: post #10
pickovven wrote: post #5

A decent outcome here would be if Glassdoor revealed all employers that attempt to go after former employees with alerts like the current one on the Zuru page.

Glassdoors business model is selling the ability to take down bad reviews. Why would they out their customers?

You can pay them to remove bad reviews?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by crummy »

colinmhayes wrote: post #10
pickovven wrote: post #5

A decent outcome here would be if Glassdoor revealed all employers that attempt to go after former employees with alerts like the current one on the Zuru page.

Glassdoors business model is selling the ability to take down bad reviews. Why would they out their customers?

How do I pay Glassdoor to take down a review? Is that on their website somewhere?

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by SkittyDog »

croes wrote: post #15

> Zuru hasn't simply alleged that it suffered a loss; Zuru’s cofounders declared, under penalty of perjury, that because of the negative reviews, Zuru had to spend more money to recruit job candidates for a particular position. ” Does Zuru have proof it's because of negative reviews and not other causes?

Their proof (or lack thereof) would generally be evaluated at the trial stage. This is a pre-trial procedure, so it's mostly take at face value.

If another party so moves, they could ask the court to stop the plaintiff, and the judge will make a decision. But that's not automatic--somebody has to specifically ask for it.

Re: Glassdoor not so anonymous

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Post by braingenious »

I’ve never used Glassdoor, so it’s a big surprise that they collect and retain identity information in the first place. I would never, ever provide my real name while talking about my previous employers, even if I was told that I would remain “anonymous”
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