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New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

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Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

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post #9

I wonder why are we so complacent with these kind of things? Is it really just the fact that we got our bellies full, and live in climate-controlled homes? Or has there been some degeneration of the human body brought upon us with all kinds of new artificial materials we use, that might affect our bodies in ways we can't yet comprehend; or is it a psychological thing based on the results of technological achievements…

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Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#52
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny thing is, they started the surveillance in late-2001 to suck all the records up. Where did they get the computers and storage devices to do that all at once? They must have been installing equipment for months or years, especially since I am pretty sure they even built a new data center on Fort Mead for it around that time. Now, this is 2001, when building a datacenter didn't just involve spinning up 1000 AWS E…

I legit don't believe they can store all that data. Youtube alone creates too much data for them to process and handle. They must be storing either a subset or only partial metadata.

likely netflow data.

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#53
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny thing is, they started the surveillance in late-2001 to suck all the records up. Where did they get the computers and storage devices to do that all at once? They must have been installing equipment for months or years, especially since I am pretty sure they even built a new data center on Fort Mead for it around that time. Now, this is 2001, when building a datacenter didn't just involve spinning up 1000 AWS E…

I legit don't believe they can store all that data. Youtube alone creates too much data for them to process and handle. They must be storing either a subset or only partial metadata.

with large datasets like bioinformatics you often compress the data by extracting features and building matrixes, then only keeping things that score above a threshold

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#55

Note that this is just records of some of the federal agencies, not all of them, according to the linked ACLU report: > "Although the litigation is ongoing, we are now making public the records that CBP, ICE, the U.S. Secret Service, the U.S. Coast Guard, and several offices within DHS Headquarters have provided us to date." The NSA is still vacuuming up all the metadata and a good fraction of the content from the ma…

And yet, even with all of this surveillance, we still have mass shootings every five days.

Only "nobodies" get shot. Funny how they never target any politicians, huh?

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#56

I wish the apple privacy team would address this, otherwise what good are their privacy claims

Depends on your threat model. I don't include state actors in mine, they can employ $5 hammers just as easily as crypto breakers

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#57
post #2

I used to be skeptical of the skeptics, thought they were paranoid to worry about 'big tech' snooping and tracking our lives. Turns out it is not big tech but 'big govt' that I should've been worried about. We are in danger of turning into a surveillance state

We are a surveillance state. We(geeks) all made a fuss over it about 20 years ago and no one seemed to care so here we are. Every so often someone new realizes it, freaks out, and not much changes. I wish I weren't so cynical but at some point I just got tired of losing sleep over it.

We also built it. You, I, practically anyone who has touched tech built this society.

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#58
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People with a bag of weed in their pocket in middle america probably feel the same way

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White or not if you are only middle class in middle america that ticket for the weed and steeper paraphernalia charge are going to hurt. Good luck getting the dumb things you've done as a teenager expunged unless you are actually upper class in middle america and therefore have access to legal council that your parents bankroll.

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#59
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny thing is, they started the surveillance in late-2001 to suck all the records up. Where did they get the computers and storage devices to do that all at once? They must have been installing equipment for months or years, especially since I am pretty sure they even built a new data center on Fort Mead for it around that time. Now, this is 2001, when building a datacenter didn't just involve spinning up 1000 AWS E…

I legit don't believe they can store all that data. Youtube alone creates too much data for them to process and handle. They must be storing either a subset or only partial metadata.

I mean more than a few x00 someones have to actually know the answer to that question. Shocked it hasn't been leaked.

Re: New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone location data tracking

#60

Note that this is just records of some of the federal agencies, not all of them, according to the linked ACLU report: > "Although the litigation is ongoing, we are now making public the records that CBP, ICE, the U.S. Secret Service, the U.S. Coast Guard, and several offices within DHS Headquarters have provided us to date." The NSA is still vacuuming up all the metadata and a good fraction of the content from the ma…

And yet, even with all of this surveillance, we still have mass shootings every five days.

Judging by what is done (and what is not done) to remedy them, they sound more like a feature than a bug of our society unfortunately. People are able to storm political institutions when they are angry about an election, but just buy more weapons when their kids get killed. Go figure.
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